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To: Capriole
Luther - Still excommunicated!
Wycliffe - Still excommunicated!
Huss - Still excommunicated!
Tyndale - Still under anathema!




Hmmm - the Pope did nothing to heal the past sins of the RCC. Perhaps the author doesn't even know why he is a protestant. I wonder if the Augsburg confessions meant anything at all to him. Does the words Sola Fide or Sola Scriptura not mean anything at all? Do all the millions of martyrs that died to bring freedom from Rome not mean anything at all?

The pope had a detente with American Protestants, but that hardly makes him a protestants pope.
3 posted on 04/05/2005 10:38:21 PM PDT by DaveyB (Professing to become wise they became fools!)
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To: DaveyB

I'm waiting for an apology from the Cromwellians......


5 posted on 04/05/2005 10:44:41 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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To: DaveyB

I agree.

Can someone please explain to the author of this article what the differences between protestants and Catholics are? I would but I'm tired and I'm going to bed.

Sola Gracia!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 04/05/2005 10:49:56 PM PDT by Quixotical (It's called the Reformation. Ever heard of it?????????)
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To: DaveyB
Do all the millions of martyrs that died to bring freedom from Rome not mean anything at all?

There were no "millions of martyrs," except in the fevered brains of Protestant polemicists.

There were many thousands killed on both sides, though. When the Lutheran armies overran Rome in 1527, the Romans thought they were witnessing the Apocalypse. Protestants have a wonderful knack for forgetting the sins of their forefathers, or dissociating themselves from those forefathers entirely. (They weren't "real Christians," you know.)

My wife used to have a rather funny book of Anglican apologetics, which blamed the Reformation on Henry VIII, whom it described as (quoting) "a vicious man and a Roman Catholic". (If Henry VIII was a Roman Catholic, what does that make the Catholic martyrs Henry had beheaded because they refused to recognize him as "Head of the Church in England" [sic]?)

11 posted on 04/05/2005 10:57:29 PM PDT by Campion
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To: DaveyB

AMEN!! Nice to hear there are others that think the same way I do.


16 posted on 04/05/2005 11:14:07 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: DaveyB

Amen to your post!


30 posted on 04/05/2005 11:59:06 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: DaveyB

That's OK...I'm Eastern Orthodox, and the Pope is still "excommunicated" too!


61 posted on 04/06/2005 1:34:56 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Still Free........Republic!)
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To: DaveyB

You going to apologize for Cromwell, boyo?


66 posted on 04/06/2005 2:04:43 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: DaveyB
Luther - Still excommunicated! Wycliffe - Still excommunicated! Huss - Still excommunicated! Tyndale - Still under anathema! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hmmm - the Pope did nothing to heal the past sins of the RCC.

You're an extremely silly person. The Church is not obliged to heal the rift that your Protestant heroes caused. Luther left, hence we just change our doctrines to make Lutherans happy.

A big fat whatever from me.
84 posted on 04/06/2005 5:24:18 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: DaveyB

As I told my late, Slovak father, it's not 1306 anymore. You need to get over Huss being martyred. There were Catholics killed in the Reformation, too.

We should work toward mutual comprehension and love between Christians, for the divisions between us give weapons and pleasure to the Devil and grief to Christ. Nothing could be worse than Protestants supposing (as some do) that Catholics are going to go to hell for being superstitious and Catholics supposing (as some do) that all Protestants are going to go to hell for not being Catholic. The Devil rejoices.


95 posted on 04/06/2005 6:16:10 AM PDT by Capriole (I don't have any problems that couldn't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition)
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To: DaveyB
Well-put, and thank you for saying it. I'm sure you'd agree, you're only scratching the surface.

I'm praying and pondering as to how to approach just this theme in my blog.

Dan

108 posted on 04/06/2005 7:24:36 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: DaveyB; Colin MacTavish; RnMomof7

***Perhaps the author doesn't even know why he is a protestant. I wonder if the Augsburg confessions meant anything at all to him. Does the words Sola Fide or Sola Scriptura not mean anything at all? Do all the millions of martyrs that died to bring freedom from Rome not mean anything at all?***

No & no!

The problem is that the vast majority of so called Protestants have no clue what a Protestant is and what they believe. The are simply PINO's. In practice, they are much closer to the false administration of the Church in Rome. So, I have no doubt that they identify with Catholics. And, I have no doubt that they would think that the Pope is their Holy Father.

I was discussing this Monday with my Brother-in-law, who is not studied in Christian Doctrine, and he was shocked to know that Catholics really don't know what will happen to them after they die. He was shocked to hear from my own Catholic friends that they don't know where this Pope is right now. His question to me was: "Well, if there is no real assurance, then why would anyone want to be Catholic."

There are still some of us who haven't fogotten the old cries:

Sola Scriptura
Sola Gratia
Sola Fide
Solo Christo
Soli Deo Gloria

In the service of the Lord,
Christian.


139 posted on 04/06/2005 9:20:46 AM PDT by thePilgrim (The Lord is my strength and my shielde: mine heart trusted in him, and I was helped)
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To: DaveyB
Luther - Still excommunicated!

Wycliffe - Still excommunicated!

Huss - Still excommunicated!

Tyndale - Still under anathema!

Somehow I do not think it bothers them.

169 posted on 04/06/2005 11:12:19 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: DaveyB
Does the words Sola Fide or Sola Scriptura not mean anything at all?

I always chuckle at this. It would take apostolic authority to make a doctrinal declaration of Sola Fide or Sola Scriptura, something none of the Protestant reformers had.

As someone who is neither Protestant nor Catholic, it's pretty obvious the whole Protestant authority argument is incredibly weak, if not totally non-existent.

Having said that, I respect the right of Protestants to believe as they choose.

171 posted on 04/06/2005 11:13:32 AM PDT by frgoff
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To: DaveyB
Errr, were'nt Huss, Wycliff and Tyndale also murdered and burned at the stake by orders of the Catholic Church? Tyndale was pursued for years and finally garroted and his body burnt at the stake by order of Henry VIII and his later-sainted Catholic advisor, Sir Thomas More. What was Tyndale's crime? Church law prohibited anyone except select bishops and archbishops from reading or translating the scriptures, including reading the Catholic Bible, the Vulgate translated to Latin. Tyndale was thereafter a fugitive from Church law and was finally trapped by an English traitor who befriended him and then turned him over to the Church for punishment.

Tyndale was the first to translate, print and distribute the complete New Testament from early Greek versions into Old English. The King James version was completed about 115 years later and included at least 85% of the translation previously made by Tyndale. His translation was therefore "approved as accurate" by the King James translators. Would there have been Protestants in England without both versions having been made available to the common people? Good question. To me, Tyndale and others like him are truly saints.

591 posted on 04/07/2005 12:43:28 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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