Posted on 04/12/2005 4:52:46 PM PDT by paltz
Laura Commodor-Young, Principal
Oh look, a hyphenated name. How "Progressive"...
"White guys rape women too. When one does, its doubtful that many of you would be focusing so much on the race."
Which is why I focussed on the name name of the principle instead (see just above)
And btw, we do focus on other things, but when a white guy does it, generally the other people in the immediate population point it out if they see it and do something about it. Taking a criminal justice class, I can say a minority population is less inclined to trust the police and is more inclined to disrespect authority. This kind of population fosters deviant behavior.
I'd say the kid with the video-tape did partly the right thing, but other than that, why were there a dozen sheep-minded kids simply WATCHING it happen?
Thanks for the ping
Makes me retch.
All I know is that if I were in that room, they would have been arresting me for hate crimes.
"How has our society crumbled so completely? HOW? THis was not done years ago! IF it was, the teens would havebeen shot!
1) Progressive Education.
2) Emphasizing rights without responsibility to 'children'.
3) Delayed justice.
4) Drugs instead of the healthy fear of ass whoopings(in school & out).
5) Ending moral training, as in, removing the bible from the classroom, which gradually removed the fear of God societally(pretty much permanently at present).
6) Sex education(supported by #2).
And it will happen again. Apparently this is not an isolated incident at that school.
Clinton wanted a legacy, well he got it. That is what he will always be remembered for.
i prefer the second option
>>No, its called focusing on the race instead of the crime. All of the focus on the race of the perps and the victim just perpetuates the racist stereotype that republicans (unfairly) have.<<
Fatherless males are disproportionately more likely to commit violent crimes (regardless of race), and it is a safe bet that the perps in this case are born-out-of-wedlock, fatherless males. Of course, as soon as you mention out-of-wedlock births, accusations of racism will fly, because illegitimacy is a norm in the black community.
>>White guys rape women too. When one does, its doubtful that many of you would be focusing so much on the race.<<
True. But...
If you look at crime stats, rape is committed at a significantly higher rate by black males than by white males. This is almost certainly due to 70% black illegitimacy.
I suppose its not suprising that the Mifflin School where
this happened is known as the PUNCHERS
I agree 100% with your post but my point is that it's a fools errand to focus on race in these issues. First of all, it opens the door to reducing the culpability of the rapists since it lends credence to the "they're just products of their environment" defense.
Secondly, it perpetuates the (unfair) reputation that conservatives have for being racists. We need to have the credibility to fight terrorism and control the borders. If we focus on race in every other situation, we won't be able to fight terrorism or control our borders because both policies will be labeled as racist.
Focusing on race gains us nothing in these criminal matters but the cost is VERY high. With as many important issues existing in the world today, we as conservatives really need to know which battles are worth fighting. If you look at crime stats, rape is committed at a significantly higher rate by black males than by white males. This is almost certainly due to 70% black illegitimacy.
It's not like no one knew about oral sex before Clinton. No one, especially teenagers, look to the president as a role model.
Oral sex is most popular in churches where girls can mess around and still claim to be a virgin to their clueless parents that think their child is an angel. This didn't start with Clinton.
And in doing so...he legitmized this act for children. Sad. Oh yeah...oral sex has been around forever, having a president state that it is, well, not really sexual, or sex, was new.
And devastating to our culture.
I know it may not have been started with clinton, and it's been around for a long time. But it was brought mainstream by his actions and was perpetuated by the media coverage of him and starr's investigation of him.
Which churches have you attended where you know of this to be true?
>>First of all, it opens the door to reducing the culpability of the rapists since it lends credence to the "they're just products of their environment" defense.
Secondly, it perpetuates the (unfair) reputation that conservatives have for being racists.<<
Well stated, Jeff, we are in complete agreement...but, it raises the question...
Should we, or should we not focus on the fatherlessness-crime link...which, in my opinion, is at the heart of this type of behavior among TEEN MALES, who live according to rap lyrics instead of fatherly discipline... and if so, are we also providing the "products of their environment" excuse?
Thoughts?
Also, I'm new here...can you direct me to instructions for using italics?
You are so wrong!
</sarcasm>
Personally, southern baptist. Friends who have attended catholic, church of God and Presbyterian churches report the exact same thing. The southern baptist churches I personally attended were both large and small - it happened in all of them.
Church going parents are usually the most clueless parents there are. One set of parents I know were so proud of the daughter and the job they did raising her. They wouldn't let her watch PG-13 movies and couldn't date. They talked endlessly how God gives parents the gift of wisdom and they regarded anything a childless person would say.
Ends up their daughter had given every just about every guy in her singles group a blowjob at one time or another and she wasn't the only one. Of course when they finally found out, the daughter "confessed her sin" and said that she had seen the errors of her way and was going to rededicate her life to Christ. The parents bought it hook, line and sinker.
Parents are often blind to what kids do and especially to what their own kids do.
I agree with your assessment. I just wanted to be sure you'd had at least personal experience with the topic, not just spouting off without evidence about "church going hypocrites." There are hypocrites everywhere, not just in churches. Parents are very much clueless these days. I can think of at least two girls in my own church's youth group who have definitely got their parents fleeced.
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