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McClinotck Begins Luitenant Governor Campaign
The Sacramento Bee ^ | Today | AP

Posted on 04/24/2005 9:41:55 AM PDT by AVNevis

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To: AVNevis

Go Tom Go!!!!


81 posted on 04/25/2005 7:59:12 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("This will help you with the pain - POW!!" - Jack Bauer)
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To: Torie
He speaks his mind and we all know what he says...

What he did and may do in the future is what scares me.
He was betraying the party IMO and causing there to be a split in a major race.
I feel his self absorbed style of career advancement in politics puts conservatism in a dangerous predicament.

He has proved to me that he thinks he's more important than the whole party.

He should be worked against real hard to be staying in small offices or out of politics in general. He's acts like a little Napoleon. That won't do squat for California.
82 posted on 04/25/2005 8:06:03 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dean Baker
"McClintock tried to derail the ONLY chance the Republicans had at winning the recall election by staying in the race.

I don't "Forget and forgive". No, he didn't succeed at helping Bustamove get elected, but he TRIED. I'll be giving to his opponent. He must be punished for what he tried to do (I believe attempted murder is just as bad a murder).

You tried to screw me, Tom...Now I'm going to screw you!!"

You honestly think that McClintock stayed in the race just to try to elect Bustamonte?
83 posted on 04/25/2005 8:10:46 PM PDT by AVNevis (www.cahsconservative.blogspot.com Great Political Discussion from the eyes of a High School Student)
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To: A CA Guy
"He has proved to me that he thinks he's more important than the whole party."

You know, if he was just out looking for attention, why doesn't he go join the teachers union in bashing Arnold?

Imagine the headlines: "Leading Conservative Denounces Governor!"

But you haven't seen that from Tom. He has stood behind the governor.
84 posted on 04/25/2005 8:15:27 PM PDT by AVNevis (www.cahsconservative.blogspot.com Great Political Discussion from the eyes of a High School Student)
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To: calcowgirl
Many McClintock voters threw away their votes to enable Democrats by voting for McClintock.
Some of the more logical voters went for Arnold. McClintock absolutely sucks when getting the vote in this state in a statewide election.

I think his risk of sabotage was ONLY about his desire to get his name out there for the future.
Of course if Bustamante won from McClintock's tactics, instead of attempting to justify his actions, we'd be all out trying to actively remove him from office. RECALL!
85 posted on 04/25/2005 8:16:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I think I am going to send him a $200 check. You guys have inspired me. The effort to silence a voice that needs to be heard, if only to observe that the emperor has not clothes, simply finds to favor in this quarter. McClintock should just say "nuts" to you hecklers and bearers of old grudges. I suspect McClintock will win the GOP primary easily.


86 posted on 04/25/2005 8:17:56 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: AVNevis

Because he imagines himself as a good conservative Republican.
But, he's only a self serving politician IMO.


87 posted on 04/25/2005 8:18:14 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Bustamonte could not have won not matter how much they split the vote. The combined Republicans got 63%, Bustamonte only got 31%.


88 posted on 04/25/2005 8:18:14 PM PDT by AVNevis (www.cahsconservative.blogspot.com Great Political Discussion from the eyes of a High School Student)
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To: AVNevis
I find the animus genuinely puzzling, and I am the first to dump on read meat GOP nutters. McClintock is NOT one of those.
89 posted on 04/25/2005 8:19:40 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: AVNevis
Bustamonte only got 31% because of the popular candidate that Arnold is.

No one knows the results of an election until the vote is counted.
At a time when no vote had taken place and McClintock knew he was both a loser and splitting the vote, that was IMO spoiling the election to the benefit of the Democrats.
We were darn lucky in California that Arnold was so powerful a candidate that he could survive a Democrat and a backstabbing wanna-be McC.

McC has lost my trust due to his actions, before that I liked him but just thought he needed to market himself better.
Now, I believe he is bad for the party, bad for the people and too in love with potential power to ever be trusted again.
90 posted on 04/25/2005 8:53:41 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: FairOpinion
Actually you are really complaining that I am NOT posting the garbage of so-called conservatives stating it on this board, that they preferred Bustamante to win, rather than Arnold.

The definition of psychosis is not knowing you are crazy.

Some day, some of you will slip up again, and I will make sure to preserve those posts for posterity and post them, as requested.

You have repeatedly babbled the assertion that FReepers who supported McClintock would have preferred Bustamante to Arnold and have never supplied any evidence of its veracity. You have had over a year to search it and have failed to find a single corroborating post.

Now, thanks to you, FareOpinion, we don't have to wait for "some day," seeing as you have blown it again. In the thread at the above link, you asserted you could disprove EVERY ONE of the points in my oft repeated list of Arnold's record. You failed thereon to supply any evidence disproving a single one (even though one of them did have an error that has been since corrected).

I at least showed you the courtesy of warning you that I had bookmarked it, knowing that you would eventually blow it anyway.

91 posted on 04/25/2005 9:00:39 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Torie
McClintock is dangerous, stuck up, not a team player and doesn't earn the trust of the people.

He also has the same magnetic personality as wall paper paste. He had a marketing problem before, now he has lots of conservatives seeing him as the out of control spoiler IMO.
If McC wins this nomination, it's a gift of the office to a Democrat by almost default. McC is like the kiss of death to success right now.
If he becomes the Republican candidate, he loses to the Democrat and has zero chance of winning that office.

Send him that $200 so he can stash some of it for his retirement. LOL

92 posted on 04/25/2005 9:00:52 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Torie
McClintock is dangerous, stuck up, not a team player and doesn't earn the trust of the people.

He also has the same magnetic personality as wall paper paste. He had a marketing problem before, now he has lots of conservatives seeing him as the out of control spoiler IMO.
If McC wins this nomination, it's a gift of the office to a Democrat by almost default. McC is like the kiss of death to success right now.
If he becomes the Republican candidate, he loses to the Democrat and has zero chance of winning that office.

Send him that $200 so he can stash some of it for his retirement. LOL

93 posted on 04/25/2005 9:00:52 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yawn -- you should worry more about the Republicans in the US Senate and House giving in to the Dems.

Senators May Compromise to End Impasse on Judges

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1391058/posts


AND

se GOP Doesn't Plan Probe of Judges (Schiavo, DeLay)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1391046/posts


94 posted on 04/25/2005 9:02:55 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: A CA Guy

Just who is the Pubbie who could win the lieutenant governor slot, and whomever it is, why would it mean a damn? The office has no duties except as a platform to promulgate ideas. There really is a serious lack of proportion here.


95 posted on 04/25/2005 9:03:02 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: FairOpinion
Yawn -- you should worry more about the Republicans in the US Senate and House giving in to the Dems.

Yawn -- When confronted with your own words, you change the subject, as usual.

So, if electing Republicans is your goal, tell us why, when the best known and most respected Republican conservative in California, who polled better than any other Republican candidate in the last general election, announces his run for Lieutenant Governor, you immediately attempt to sabotage that campaign?

96 posted on 04/25/2005 9:08:59 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: A CA Guy

>>He has proved to me that he thinks he's more important than the whole party.

He's proved to me that conservatism and principles are more important than the party.
That is a GOOD thing in my book.


97 posted on 04/25/2005 9:11:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Carry_Okie

He is NOT the best known. Arnold is the best known.

McC is NOT respected except by a handful of faithful groupies.

And for the 10 millionth time, he is UNELECTABLE in any statewide election.


98 posted on 04/25/2005 9:12:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: A CA Guy
"We were darn lucky in California that Arnold was so powerful a candidate that he could survive a Democrat and a backstabbing wanna-be McC."
Mcclintock was a more powerful candidate than Arnold. I'd lay out my evidence, but you have heard it before and have dismissed it, so it isn't worth my time. After all, I have a blog to update. No time to deal with issues from two years ago.
99 posted on 04/25/2005 9:12:27 PM PDT by AVNevis (www.cahsconservative.blogspot.com Great Political Discussion from the eyes of a High School Student)
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To: FairOpinion
He is NOT the best known. Arnold is the best known.

Arnold is NOT a conservative.

100 posted on 04/25/2005 9:12:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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