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Now evolving in biology classes: a testier climate - students question evolution
Christian Science Monitor ^ | May 3, 2005 | G. Jeffrey MacDonald

Posted on 05/03/2005 2:12:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You'll be surprised how "easy" they make it for teachers to pass along a point of view.
Which is why I welcome critics amongst the students, even though, in the case of evolution, I disagree with the doubters. But students asking questions in class is always a good thing.
21 posted on 05/03/2005 4:29:49 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"The intent is to plant seeds of doubt in the minds of students as to the veracity of Darwin's theory of evolution."


It may be that students have legitimate questions concerning evolution, but don't expect the MSM to report the truth. Isn't the reporter planting a seed of doubt with his readers when he questions the motives of the students?
22 posted on 05/03/2005 4:35:26 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: samtheman
....But anyway, the process of science is as important to understand as the subjects of science themselves...

Bump!!

23 posted on 05/03/2005 4:35:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: samtheman

You must have interesting classes.


24 posted on 05/03/2005 4:36:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: conservativecorner

It certainly seems so.

It's not possible to be objective and I'm so tired of the msm saying they are.


25 posted on 05/03/2005 4:37:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: samtheman

The average thoughtful teenager has more commonsense in his little finger than pointy-headed teachers mouthing evolutionary mush.

That growling sound you hear are believers in God at last taking positions against the evolution-idiots.

The truth will prevail for it is stronger than fiction.

Charles Darwin tried to circumvent God, but ole Charles is dead, and God still lives and 90% of Americans still believe he lives and is our Creator and Organizer of the earth.

Religionists as well as Darwinists have illogical explanations for the existence of the earth and life. For too long now, we have tolerated egotistical rantings from both camps. Now, commonsense begins to replace babblings. We will not be satisfied with explanations that are senseless anymore--no matter who spouts them.

The truth is that no one knows much about the creation/existence of life because God, who does know, has chosen not to reveal it yet. So what we have is the blind leading the blind or the five blind men describing an elephant by touching one part of an immense being.

God doesn't reveal to us much of anything it seems, either because we couldn't handle it or we couldn't make money off it, so likely we'd reject it.

But the teenagers may be signaling the beginning of change. And thinking people see no contradiction between pure science and intelligent design. Intelligent design makes more sense than all that crafted, phony and false evolutionary goobly-gook.

The truth is marching on!


26 posted on 05/03/2005 5:07:59 AM PDT by dimmer-rats stealvotes
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To: samtheman
Gould wrote in a style that many "intellectuals" loved. Sort of held the JD Salinger Chair of Modern Shove-It-Down-Your-Throat-With-Opiates-of-The-Gifted-Elite-Pen Biology.

But he died. So it's time to evolve a new punctuation. Instead of "!" for Gould it should be "!?".

27 posted on 05/03/2005 5:34:37 AM PDT by bvw
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To: dimmer-rats stealvotes

I agree with your tagline, dimmer-rats stealvotes, but nothing of what you just wrote.


28 posted on 05/03/2005 5:48:46 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Pittsburgh will regret lavishing so much public symbolspace to Warhol, Warhol's moment is fleeting, so too Gould's. Outside the fleeting context of the times they actually lived in neither Gould nor Warhol will resonate much with future audiences, imo.

Sidney Sheldon -- now there's a pop artist whose works are timeless.

29 posted on 05/03/2005 5:49:19 AM PDT by bvw
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
I am an MIT graduate and I have never believed the Darwinian model of evolutionary development.

Never believed? The texts must have been poorly written, or the teachers incompetent. We cannot blame the lack of evidence or an incoherent theory on your unbelief! Normally, your intelligence would be doubted but since you are an MIT grad...

I wish I had never believed in evolution. I once believed those poorly written texts and incompetent teachers. Once I learned how to think for myself, I abandoned the evolutionary superstition.

30 posted on 05/03/2005 6:08:16 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Today there are many more arguments that kids bring to class, a whole fleet of arguments, and they're all drawn out of the efforts by different groups, like the intelligent design [proponents]."

Another child is prepared to bring her father's religious beliefs to school.

31 posted on 05/03/2005 6:10:23 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: shuckmaster

thanks for the ping, SM.


32 posted on 05/03/2005 6:13:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That's because critics of Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection are equipping families with books, DVDs, and a list of "10 questions to ask your biology teacher."

What are they whining about? Having a list of questions they might be asked makes it easy for the teachers. They can prepare and will not be put on the spot. If they have answers for the questions, they will be ready. If they don't have answers, they can research them. A teacher should not be afraid of a few questions. If the theory cannot survive questions, it is not much good as a theory.

33 posted on 05/03/2005 6:17:35 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: Physicist
Another child is prepared to bring her father's religious beliefs to school.

Religion and history have been tied together since the beginning of time.

34 posted on 05/03/2005 6:22:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: knuthom
What are they whining about?.........

Indeed!

35 posted on 05/03/2005 6:23:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: knuthom

http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/pap.10q.html


36 posted on 05/03/2005 6:25:25 AM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
One of the things that drove my teachers nuts is that I never just believed them if I had a problem. I would always ask "Why is this that way? What about this view?".

Nothing gets you in trouble faster than pointing out the ignorance of a teacher. I spent a lot of time in grade school suspended from after lunch recess because I would keep asking questions.
37 posted on 05/03/2005 6:25:48 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Physicist

If you follow the money for this movement it will lead you to the Rev. Moon and the Unification Church.


38 posted on 05/03/2005 6:25:54 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: js1138
If you follow the money for this movement it will lead you to the Rev. Moon and the Unification Church.

That in itself doesn't bother me. Indeed, the same can be said of the Washington Times. It might bother many creationists, though.

39 posted on 05/03/2005 6:29:28 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: redgolum
One of the things that drove my teachers nuts is that I never just believed them if I had a problem. I would always ask "Why is this that way? What about this view?".

There's a world of difference between a student asking a teacher because he wants to learn the answer, and a disruptor arguing with a teacher because he wants to prevent others from learning the answers.

40 posted on 05/03/2005 6:34:59 AM PDT by Physicist
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