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Federal judge rules gay marriage ban unconstitutional (Nebraska)
Omaha World Herald ^ | 5/12/05 | Todd Cooper

Posted on 05/12/2005 1:32:13 PM PDT by jebanks

U.S. District Judge Joseph Bataillon struck down Thursday Nebraska's constitutional provision prohibiting gay marriage or civil unions.

The constitutional amendment, known as Initiative 416, passed in 2000 with 70 percent of the vote. It prevents homosexuals who work for the state or the University of Nebraska system from sharing health insurance and other benefits with their partners.

A group of lesbian and gay couples sued the state of Nebraska, contending the act barred "lesbian, gay and bisexual people from using the ordinary political process to seek important legal protections that all other Nebraskans already have."

Forty states have so-called "Defense of Marriage'' laws, but Nebraska's ban is the only one that explicitly prohibits same-sex couples from enjoying many of the legal protections that heterosexual couples enjoy.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: cary; clintonlegacy; homosexualagenda; josephbataillon; judicialactivism; judiciary; marriage; marriageamendment; nebraska; ruling
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Federal Law supercedes State Constitutional Law, that is why it is important we get those Federal Judges through the Senate.

Federal Amendments are very hard to get passed, but state Amendments are easier to get passed all we need are good Conservative Judges!

141 posted on 05/12/2005 3:40:48 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: No Dems 2004
This guy is only making matters worse for the gays. It's going to throw kerosene on the fire. Those floozies are in trouble!!!

He isn't doing activist judges or judges, in general, any favors either. This will also play into the Senate fight over ending filibusters on President Bush's judicial nominees.

142 posted on 05/12/2005 3:44:02 PM PDT by RJL
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To: All
You cant eliminate Judicial Review, JR is what the courts are suppose to do. And JR worked fine for this country until Leftists Judges took over the courts.

What is worse is most of these Judges tend to be GOP appointees. Many of Bush's appointees were Dems and RINOS, only a few real conservatives such as the 10 the Dems are blocking. If a SCOTUS vacancy comes up Bush better appoint a Real Conservative Judge, and not Alberto Gonzales which is Spanish for David Souter!

143 posted on 05/12/2005 3:45:44 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: goldstategop
When a single judge takes it on himself to disregard the views of 70% of the voters in the American heartland, we are heading for a constitutional crisis.

Unless, of course, the 70% just back down and give up. Which is the most probable outcome.

144 posted on 05/12/2005 3:45:51 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: RJL

>>This guy is only making matters worse for the gays. It's going to throw kerosene on the fire. Those floozies are in trouble!!!
<<

I really don't think so...
He is making a distinction between marriage which is a special thing reserved for heterosexual couples and civil unions that anyone should be able to join...not unlike a contract.


145 posted on 05/12/2005 3:47:06 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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To: wk4bush2004
At the end of the day, who really cares? Do you really feel that threatened if two guys are married. I have enough things in my own life to worry about that I couldn't care less what two males or females are doing with each other. There are so many more important issues at hand: Iraq was looking good for a while, now insurgents are on the rise. Oil was looking rough for awhile, now it's ever so slightly coming down, but more could be done. Social security still needs to be privatized. With all the issue looming, I would rather have Dubya and company working towards my well being rather than meddle over useless affairs. This will affect your life none at the end of the day.
146 posted on 05/12/2005 3:48:27 PM PDT by cosmicassassin (Just give me what I came for, then I'm out the door again.)
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To: cosmicassassin

But it affects the morals of our country. America was founded as a Christian nation and homosexuality is immoral.


147 posted on 05/12/2005 3:49:55 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: cosmicassassin
>>At the end of the day, who really cares? Do you really feel that threatened if two guys are married<<

I don't feel threatened by gay marriage - if they have preacher who will marry them then that's a private matter.

I have an issue with tax breaks or special privileges though. Government recognized marriage is special because that's the best place for children to come from. A civil union should be sifficient.
148 posted on 05/12/2005 3:53:30 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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To: goldstategop
"The Left does not believe in democracy and the rule of law"

As to "democracy," neither did the founding fathers, as stated in

Article IV, Section 4,

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union, a republican form of government,

A "republican form of government" is not a democracy.

As to the "rule of law," Alexander Hamilton states, “A constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by the judges as, a fundamental law.

“No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.”

You are going to be damn glad when the Muslims are the majority in this country and they wish to abolish Christianity that the Constitution consisting of Article VI, Section 3 (no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States) and Amendment I (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;) are the "RULE OF LAW."

149 posted on 05/12/2005 3:57:16 PM PDT by tahiti
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To: planekT

Thanks.

The rats can't win elections except in the rat controlled big cities. So they use their judges to make laws.


150 posted on 05/12/2005 3:57:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: goldstategop
Its not just gay marriage. This judge's ruling strengthen the case for a constitutional amendment abolishing judicial review. When a single judge takes it on himself to disregard the views of 70% of the voters in the American heartland, we are heading for a constitutional crisis. I stated yesterday my conviction judges have no business deciding questions of a social or political nature. Their only duty ought to be to see how the law is enforced and to punish offenders.

As an EX-CA....I remember voting YES for "term limits" and Prop 187. Along with Prop. 208, and 5...all being overturned in the courts.

I dunno why anyone is surprised when we have political office holder's dominated by lawyers..that they turn to the courts..when they don't like what the peon peasants vote for...or against.

FWIW-

151 posted on 05/12/2005 4:00:20 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Bill Clinton's heart is blacker than the devil's riding boots.....................................)
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To: goldstategop
"...then minorities will have to convince a majority in an elected legislature to grant them a new right."

Grant them a new right!!!!

This is FreeRepublic.com, not Democratic Underground.

Madison argues "rights retained by the people" (Amendment IX) directly constrained congressional power.

Madison [is] committed to the dual strategy of limiting powers and protecting rights.

Senator Lyman, principal draftsman of both the Thirteenth Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1866, posed the question “…what rights do citizens of the United States have?” He answered, “They are those inherent, fundamental rights which belong to free citizens or free men, in all countries, such as the rights enumerated in this bill, and they belong to them in all the States of the Union.” As examples of “natural rights” and “inalienable rights” he offered these: “The right of personal security, the right of personal liberty, and the right to acquire and enjoy property.”

If the founding generation that adopted the Ninth Amendment and the generation that adopted the Fourteenth Amendment were correct about natural rights, then constitutional legitimacy requires a lawmaking process that provides an assurance that the rights retained by the people, or the privileges and immunities of citizens, will not be disparaged, denied, or abridged.

We do not get our "rights" from the legislature. I am stunned that you would make such a remark.

153 posted on 05/12/2005 4:42:24 PM PDT by tahiti
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To: Grampa Dave

You're welcome.

Might be a silver lining here. Isn't Chuck Hagel from Nebraska and also one of the Senators who are on the fence as far as pushing the rules change through on the judicial fillibusters?

Nebraska has got to be the reddest of the red states. I suspect this will prompt quite a few Nebraskans to let Hagel know how they feel about this Judge's trashing of a law that they voted in and that something has to be done to put a stop to this crap.


154 posted on 05/12/2005 4:43:48 PM PDT by planekT (Go DeLay, Go!)
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To: Maceman
We have to have a system of checks and balances."

133 – Constitutional Convention explicitly assumed this power (judicial power) to reside in the judiciary. No one disputed the power of the judiciary to set aside unconstitutional laws passed by states. Nor did anyone question that federal judges would have the same power to set aside unconstitutional legislation from Congress. Federal judges had the inherent power to hold federal laws unconstitutional.

134 - …judicial nullification was included within the original meaning of the “judicial power.” Throughout the duration of the Convention no one disputed the existence of a judicial power to nullify unconstitutional laws.

136 – Without a judiciary, the injunctions of the Constitution may be disobeyed, and the positive regulations neglected or contravened.

137 – James Madison –Asserting the importance of judicial nullification. “If they are incorporated into the constitution, independent tribunals of justice will consider themselves in a peculiar manner the guardians of those rights; they will be an impenetrable bulwark against every assumption of power in the legislative or executive; they will be naturally led to resist every encroachment upon rights expressly stipulated for in the constitution by the declaration of rights.”

139 – In our system, absent a legislative supermajoritarian override of a presidential veto, all three branches must concur before it (a law) is constitutional. Any one branch may scuttle a law because it alone deems it unconstitutional.

No one in Congress rose to object to this assertion of “judicial power.”

"What checks and balances exist now to control an out-of-control judiciary run amok? Answer? None."

Congress is free to correct such judicial interpretations if it wishes.

268 – That it often does not evidences Congress’s all-too-common strategy of passing vaguely worded statutes so that administrative agencies or courts provide the rules of law that Congress would not.

In the event that Congress disagrees with an assessment by the Supreme Court that a particular enactment is either unnecessary or improper, and there is a strong popular support for the statute, Congress has the power to propose a constitutional amendment.

155 posted on 05/12/2005 4:55:24 PM PDT by tahiti
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To: tahiti

This is going to be appealed. Which court will it go to and what is the makeup of that court? Anyone know?


156 posted on 05/12/2005 6:05:31 PM PDT by queenkathy (Don't give up. Moses was once a basket case.)
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To: december12

Law Professor Eugene Volokh gives a lengthy explanation of why this decision was wrong and predicts that it will be overturned at http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_05_08-2005_05_14.shtml#1115938636


157 posted on 05/12/2005 6:19:44 PM PDT by december12
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To: jebanks

I bet if you had 1000 grammarians and gave them 1000 years they would not be able to find the judge's little gem in the Constitution.


158 posted on 05/12/2005 6:22:03 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
I don't have a problem with Judicial Review... I have a problem with Judges creating laws that don't exist, I have a problem with Judges who ORDER legislatures to pass the laws they want, and I have a problem with Judges who ORDER the death of innocent civilians.

If the Federal Constitution doesn't EXPLICTLY address an issue, the courts HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BUSSINESS butting their noses into what a state chooses to do or not do.
159 posted on 05/12/2005 7:05:16 PM PDT by Nyboe
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To: tahiti
Ok. Our rights are inherent and God-given. Its not a legislature's place to give them or take them away. I should have expressed it in the sense of new privileges. Which is what gays really want. There is no entitlement to get married nor ought there to be one.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
160 posted on 05/12/2005 7:09:23 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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