Posted on 05/26/2005 6:13:16 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
Shalom to you !
I know my answer. I will await yours.
Sorry, I thought you were Jewish.
You too.
:)
Only a simpleton would think the situations are similar.
And why are they not? Are you saying Texas is Occupied Territory?
Either you don't know the history of Texas or you're just trying to justify your stupid remark and insult. I'm not interested in playing your game.
"says Israel needs Palestine"
Sure--like the US needs Mexico.
oops-forgot the sarcasm thingies
Well, I'm convinced He is...So if you are right, no problem for either of us...But if I'm right, yer in a heap of trouble...
Peace and Blessings to you.
I know the history of Texas and you do not. Oh, yes you do -- you're the one who wrote "The Appeaser's History of Mexico North of the Rio Grande." I guess that was ONCE called Texas, eh?
If anything, the Israelis are even more justfied than we were. It's not at all clear that Mexico started the war with the U.S. by attacking us, but the 1967 Arab-Israeli War was clearly started by the Arabs. But because the Arabs took to terrorism afterwards, they got rewarded in a way that the Mexicans never did.
"According to Bush, the Jews (God's chosen people) must give up Jerusalem (The Holy City, where Jesus will descend and reign on earth as the King, for 1000 years) to the godless Islamonazis..." ~ Iscool
B.S.
HERE IS WHERE YOU GET THE BASIS FOR YOUR BELIEFS:
"One of the antichrists who afflicted the early church was Cerinthus, the leader of a first-century Judaistic cult. Regarded by the Church Fathers as "the Arch-heretic," and identified as one of the "false apostles" who opposed Paul.
Cerinthus was a Jew who joined the Church and began drawing Christians away from the orthodox faith. He taught that a lesser deity, and not the true God, had created the world (holding, with the Gnostics, that God was much too "spiritual" to be concerned with material reality). Logically, this meant also a denial of the Incarnation, since God would not take to Himself a physical body and truly human personality.
And Cerinthus was consistent: he declared that Jesus had merely been an ordinary man, not born of a virgin; that "the Christ" (a heavenly spirit) had descended upon the man Jesus at His baptism (enabling Him to perform miracles), but then left Him again at the crucifixion. Cerinthus also advocated a doctrine of justification by works in particular, the absolute necessity of observing the ceremonial ordinances of the Old Covenant in order to be saved.
Furthermore, Cerinthus was apparently the first to teach that the Second Coming would usher in a literal reign of Christ in Jerusalem for a thousand years. Although this was contrary to the apostolic teaching of the Kingdom, Cerinthus claimed that an angel had revealed this doctrine to him." (Chapter 12,Paradise Restored)
"This [Chiliasm/Millenarianism] obscure doctrine was probably known to but very few except the fathers of the church, and is very sparingly mentioned by them during the first centuries; and there is reason to believe that it scarcely attained much notoriety, even among the learned Christians, until it was made a matter of controversy by Origen, and then rejected by the greater majority. In fact, we find Origen himself saying that it was confined to those of the simpler sort." (Waddington's History, pg. 56)
"At the Council of Ephesus in 431, belief in the millennium [after the resurrection] was condemned as superstitious." (Clouse, The Meaning of the Millennium, p. 9.)
Epiphanes (315-403): "There is indeed a millennium mentioned by St.John; but the most, and those pious men, look upon those words as true indeed, but to be taken in a spiritual sense." (Heresies, 77:26.)
Eusebius (A.D.325): "...This same historian (Papias) also gives other accounts, which he says he adds as received by him from unwritten tradition, likewise certain strange parables of our Lord, and of His doctrine and some other matters rather too fabulous.
In these he says there would be a certain millennium after the resurrection, and that there would be a corporeal reign of Christ on this very earth; which things he appears to have imagined, as if they were authorized by the apostolic narrations, not understanding correctly those matters which they propounded mystically in their representations. For he was very limited in his comprehension, as is evident from his discourses; yet he was the cause why most of the ecclesiastical writers, urging the antiquity of man, were carried away by a similar opinion; as, for instance, Irenaeus, or any other that adopted such sentiments." (Book III, Ch. 39)
More: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320022/posts?page=286#286
"He said Israel needed Palestinian consent to retain land the Arabs lost 38 years ago."
Find it VERY hard to believe Bush actually said this. The siurce IS Associated Press.
The Philistinians have a state - its called Jordan from which they were evicted years ago for causing trouble.
Our National Policy of Islamophilia is growing tiresome.
Even though the main source of 9-11 hijackers were Saudi nationals and scores of Saudi Wahhabists continue infiltrating into Iraq to murder our servicemen plus Iraqi civilians, yet our government refuses to view the 'Royal oil clan' as the enemy.
What will it take, another devastating terrorist attack from Saudi nationals?
That leap of logic is breathtaking in its stupidity.
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