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"There is no more constitution,"

Do over?

1 posted on 05/29/2005 1:41:55 PM PDT by Libloather
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2 posted on 05/29/2005 1:43:44 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
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Left-wing opponents argued that the treaty would not protect France's cherished social protections and public services, and would open the door to unfettered capitalism and trample on workers' rights.

If only that were true ...
3 posted on 05/29/2005 1:44:37 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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NON spelled backwards is still NON...

4 posted on 05/29/2005 1:44:39 PM PDT by Libloather (Hillary, I want my FBI file back...)
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This might be the first rational thing the French have done in centuries.


6 posted on 05/29/2005 1:46:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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France saves European sovereignty.


7 posted on 05/29/2005 1:46:09 PM PDT by followerofchrist
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EU officials had said that even if France rejected the treaty, efforts to ratify it in other countries would proceed, and they have been vague on whether the treaty might be somehow renegotiated or submitted to a repeat vote.

The EU Constitution will not pass if any of 25 members states does not ratify it.

9 posted on 05/29/2005 1:46:33 PM PDT by alwaysrepublican (When Passion Rules she never rules wisely)
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Maybe the courts will just put it into effect despite the vote. That's the way it works over here, isn't it?


10 posted on 05/29/2005 1:47:02 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Libloather; tiamat; TASMANIANRED

BWAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I am seldom mistaken.


11 posted on 05/29/2005 1:47:23 PM PDT by King Prout (RG'OIHGV 08 YAEGRKoirliha35u9p089 y5gep'iojq5g353hat5eohiahetb98 ye5po)
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Constitutiooooon adieeeeeu, adieu, adieu!!!


12 posted on 05/29/2005 1:48:37 PM PDT by lizol
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Ping!


13 posted on 05/29/2005 1:49:22 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Libloather; Atlantic Friend

Merci mes amis francais!

C´etais une bonne response aux les bureaucrats de la Bruxelles.

Je suis tres hereux. Merci bien de la Republique Federale d´Allemagne,

Michael


14 posted on 05/29/2005 1:50:10 PM PDT by Michael81Dus (Deutschland kommt wieder!)
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Those damn Anglos are to blame for this.


15 posted on 05/29/2005 1:50:27 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Backers said the constitution, which European leaders signed in October, would streamline EU operations and decision-making, and make the bloc more accessible to its 450 million citizens.

Only a bureaucrat could make a straight-faced assertion that, at 500+ pages, an EU constitution would 'streamline' anything.

16 posted on 05/29/2005 1:50:39 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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Now watch that toad Chirac spin smooth-talk, soothe-talk, cajole and threaten his hapless subjects into getting conned yet again...
Shame doesn't exist in the dictionary of socialist politicians


19 posted on 05/29/2005 1:52:13 PM PDT by voletti (Voletti)
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It's all Bush's faaaaaaault!, cry Le Liberals American.

Mon dieu! What happened to the Big Happy One World Order?


24 posted on 05/29/2005 1:54:47 PM PDT by LostInBayport (One Massachusetts conservative adrift in a sea of liberal lunacy...)
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All 25 EU members must ratify the text for it to take effect — and nine already have done so.

The idea for the EU constituion came from the French and German governments, and the 108-person committee was headed by the former French president, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing !

So nine pansy EU contries already affirmed it, but the French labor unions appear to have defeated it in France. When all else fails, Europe can depend on the eternal self-interest instinct of the French. :)

28 posted on 05/29/2005 1:57:31 PM PDT by xJones
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France says 'no' to EU constitution, plunging Europe into crisis
19 minutes ago

PARIS (AFP) - French voters massively rejected the EU's first ever constitution, dealing a rude slap in the face to their governing elite and a potentially fatal setback to the continent's ambitious plans for deeper political union.

In a national referendum, they voted by about 55 percent to 45 to turn down the constitution, according to three exit counts released as polls closed at 10 p.m. (0800 GMT).

The "no" win had been predicted, but the huge margin of the victory deepened a sense of crisis across the EU.

Turn-out was also very high, at between 70 and 8O percent, reflecting the intensity of the national debate.

"This is an ordeal, a real disappointment," said Foreign Minister Michel Barnier, while Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie called it "a defeat for France and a defeat for Europe."

Ignoring pleas from President Jacques Chirac that rejection would make France the "black sheep" of the 25-member bloc, the public was instead swayed by fears that the treaty would destroy the country's welfare system, leach new powers to Brussels and shift jobs to low-cost economies of eastern Europe.

The result opened a period of deep uncertainty inside the EU because the constitution needs to be ratified by all members.

By creating the posts of EU president and foreign minister and streamlining the complex process of decision-making, the treaty's 448 articles are intended to build European muscle at a time of intensifying global competition.

So far nine countries have approved the constitution and the rest aim to continue the procedure up to a deadline of October 2006, but it is unclear how the text can survive now that it has been nixed in one of the EU's six founder members and half of the key Franco-German axis.

European leaders fear the French "no" could have a domino effect in other countries planning to hold referendums -- first of all the Netherlands which has a non-binding national vote on Wednesday. Britain has hinted it might scrap a planned referendum if France voted down the constitution.

Sunday's result was a crushing blow to Chirac, who put his authority on the line with three televised appeals for a "yes" vote -- warning that rejection would marginalise France's voice in Europe and do nothing to safeguard its generous social model.

The 72-year-old president -- who marked ten years in office earlier this month -- was expected to ignore calls for his resignation, instead ordering a prompt reshuffle of his government with the dismissal of Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin.

Hotly-tipped to replace him is Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin, 51, who made his name as the suave spokesman for French opposition to the US war in Iraq.

Other names mentioned are Alliot-Marie and Chirac's arch-rival Nicolas Sarkozy, head of the ruling UMP party.

The rejection marked further evidence of the chronic rift separating the French public from the Paris-based political establishment, nearly all of which -- on left and right -- lined up in support of the constitution.

Chirac's Union for a Popular Movement was joined by the centrist Union for French Democracy (UDF) and the opposition Socialists and Greens in calling for a "yes" vote -- meaning that parties holding 96 percent of seats in the National Assembly were disavowed by the public Sunday.

The "no" vote was urged by a disparate array of forces, including the far-right of Jean-Marie Le Pen, nationalist Eurosceptics, Communists and Trotskyists, dissident Socialists under former prime minister Laurent Fabius, and anti-globalisation groups.

Two months of campaigning triggered one of the most passionate political debates of recent years, with both sides sensing that the referendum was a moment to define France's future course. Families and friends were polarised as the country split down the middle between pros and antis.

While supporters argued that the constitution was a necessary next step towards France's destiny as the leader of a united Europe, rejectionists said it was a charter for unbridled capitalism and would entrench US-style "liberal" economics at the heart of the EU.

Many ordinary voters caught the message that the constitution would open up France to cheap competition from eastern Europe and lead to "dumping" as norms of social protection are dragged downwards.

Some saw a "no" vote as a way of blocking Turkish entry to the EU, even though the issue is not in the text.

Despite Chirac's urging in a televised appeal on Thursday "not to answer the wrong question," it is also clear that many voters used the referendum to punish his government -- which they blame for 10.2 percent unemployment, falling real wages and the crisis of confidence in the country's future.

30 posted on 05/29/2005 1:59:09 PM PDT by Libloather (Hillary, I want my FBI file back...)
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35 posted on 05/29/2005 2:02:52 PM PDT by Spruce
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36 posted on 05/29/2005 2:03:02 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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Good for the French. Vive la France!


37 posted on 05/29/2005 2:05:01 PM PDT by ValenB4 ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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