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GM Reports 558,092 Deliveries in June, Up 41 Percent
GM.com ^ | GM

Posted on 07/02/2005 2:21:58 PM PDT by pure_capitalist

Click on the link and scroll down to see model-by-model sales stats.

(Excerpt) Read more at media.gm.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: automakers; autosales; carsales; generalmotors; gm; stats
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To: WOSG

Kirk Kerkorian is trying to take it over at $31/share - he wants the GMAC arm (the only profitable one) and he's going to dump/kill/sell off the rest. He's got little to no liability if he does that.


51 posted on 07/02/2005 4:11:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Armedanddangerous

OK, it sounds like you need something that actually has a low range. Unfortunately, you're probably not going to make your fuel economy standard, because you need something with significant torque. I'm also guessing you don't want to pay more than $50K and that you want a new car.

Here are your options as I see them, in no particular order.
Nissan Armada
2006 (early release) Jeep Commander (will be available in a diesel, I think, might just make your fuel economy spec)
Jeep Grand Cherokee (a bit marginal, might be a bit small)
Ford Expedition
Chevy Tahoe/GMC Yukon
Ford Explorer (maybe - same caveat as the Grand Cherokee)

The Envoy is a bit small for you, IMHO.


52 posted on 07/02/2005 4:17:40 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Forgot one - Dodge Durango.


53 posted on 07/02/2005 4:21:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Hmm

I will consider your recommendations next week when I go looking again. I can tell you however, the Explorer has plenty of head room, but not nearly enough leg room.

I'd like to keep the cost at 40 grand or less,by the way, and a used one would be ok, if it was in good shape and had some sort of a warranty.

Escalades around here are being offered at less than 35K. 2005 models....

Apparently, they can't give them away..


54 posted on 07/02/2005 4:22:17 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Zombies man.....they creep me out..)
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To: WOSG
"It's not as if that is unfair... in the internet age, customers are trying to get the best deal, and you don't need much markup on cars, , customers are trying to get the best deal, and you don't need much markup on cars"

Silly boy. Fresh from "buyers school on the big bad car dealer"? Are you familiar with the Wards 100? "In the internet age" there is no reason to make statements without facts that are readily available.

New car sales barely make enough to keep their doors open. They are in it for the service and used vehicles (particularly "program" cars). Just check your numbers before making statements
55 posted on 07/02/2005 4:22:29 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: All

I like the Durango...a lot...

The sheriff's deputies around here run them and they are very durable.


56 posted on 07/02/2005 4:25:12 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Zombies man.....they creep me out..)
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To: Spktyr

You are right. But then again, it is all in the marketing. Buyers think they are getting a "Hummer" so it makes them feel better. Who should we be to burst their bubble?


57 posted on 07/02/2005 4:25:32 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Spktyr

Good source, but I heard different from a #2 man in a dealership. Tanks I will need to further check it out.


58 posted on 07/02/2005 4:30:36 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Armedanddangerous

OK, that narrows it down. You can toss the Envoy, Explorer, Durango, and Grand Cherokee, then. If you're looking for something used, try a certified preowned 00-04 Land Rover Discovery V8 or diesel. They have British Depreciation Disease and they don't have the problems of the Brit cars of old (BMW redesigned and built them during this period). The LR's are pretty lightweight, so you should get nearly your desired fuel mileage out of one - and they have a pretty good preowned warranty program. Another good option would be a used Land Cruiser or Lexus LX450/470. They're the same truck, well tested and proven over many years. They're Toyotas, so you know what that means, and their preowned warranty program is also decent.


Escalades are not on my list because the heavy electronics loads they carry as Cadillacs are prone to repeated and frequent breakdowns.


59 posted on 07/02/2005 4:30:53 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: JSteff

Something struck me - you could get a different answer than I and we'd both be perfectly correct. GM runs their dealers in "districts" and "regions" which often have different programs or incentives from each other. It may be that whatever department Dallas is in is doing dealer rebates because of the volume or lack thereof that the dealers are doing, where another department/region/whatever doesn't.

Which is just plain stupid, IMHO.


60 posted on 07/02/2005 4:33:25 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I drive a stock D-Max and there isn't a toyota that can take me. That's with only using 15 lbs. of boost. When I pass them, they see what little power their truck has.


61 posted on 07/02/2005 4:34:59 PM PDT by azduner
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To: azduner

You mean you drive an Isuzu with a GM body, right?

Too bad Ford and Dodge diesels are faster and more powerful out of the box. Also too bad that Nissan's coming out with a 600lb-ft diesel for their Titan 2500 next year.

Say, how's your headgasket holding up? Taken your truck in for the latest round of Duramax recalls?

By the way, you might want to look at the 05 Tundra specs for 0-60 and then look at the ones for the 05 DMax....


62 posted on 07/02/2005 4:54:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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A couple of points:

The headline/story is in no way misleading. It is a simple declarative statement: GM June sales in 2005 are 41% higher than in 2004. Period.

The dealers aren't getting shafted. They still have the right to sell any car for whatever they think they can get. IMO, they should be grateful for the increased traffic due to this campaign.


63 posted on 07/02/2005 4:58:26 PM PDT by Intombe
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To: pure_capitalist

bump


64 posted on 07/02/2005 5:20:55 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: Spktyr

out of the box, my duramax has never lost to a ford powerstroke or dodge. Should it happen, I won't mind because it's an american vehicle that got me. My other vehicle happens to be a ford car.
a buddy of mine bought a small trailer and the rear end went out on his tundra trying to tow it. I can haul a 26' trailor filled with water, 2 quads & a fishing boat and drive up a hill at 75mph.
when it comes down to it, the duramax may have an isuzu motor in it but, 90 percent of the truck is american made and that's what I will live & die by. All the foreign vehicles use one method: R&D (rip off and duplicate) american vehicles. I prefer to put my hard earned cash back into the american economy. So, you can have your toyota, I'll stick with my american made products that i love not hate. gotta go fly my flag now.


65 posted on 07/02/2005 6:52:57 PM PDT by azduner
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To: azduner

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I own a Toyota. I don't. I own a Jeep and a Jaguar (among other things).

You might want to look really, really hard at your content label. Your transmission was assembled in the US of Chinese and other Asian parts with some slight US content. Your engine was made in Japan. Your truck was probably made in Canada or Mexico.

Tundras are made in the USA - Alabama, IIRC. They're going to make them in San Antonio in a few years.

What was that about "American made" again?


66 posted on 07/02/2005 7:09:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Honestfreedom

People start buying vehicles with a better reliability record again.


67 posted on 07/02/2005 9:35:17 PM PDT by octobersky
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To: Phantom Lord

These new "prices" either stick for the 2006 model year, or sales WILL be down 59% versus this quarter.

Sure would hate to be a GM stockholder right now. Wonder how much the UAW pension plan has invested in GM stock? Can you say "double-whammy"?

Reagan80


68 posted on 07/02/2005 9:40:50 PM PDT by Reagan80 ("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
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