Skip to comments.GM Reports 558,092 Deliveries in June, Up 41 Percent
Posted on 07/02/2005 2:21:58 PM PDT by pure_capitalist
Click on the link and scroll down to see model-by-model sales stats.
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Kirk Kerkorian is trying to take it over at $31/share - he wants the GMAC arm (the only profitable one) and he's going to dump/kill/sell off the rest. He's got little to no liability if he does that.
OK, it sounds like you need something that actually has a low range. Unfortunately, you're probably not going to make your fuel economy standard, because you need something with significant torque. I'm also guessing you don't want to pay more than $50K and that you want a new car.
Here are your options as I see them, in no particular order.
2006 (early release) Jeep Commander (will be available in a diesel, I think, might just make your fuel economy spec)
Jeep Grand Cherokee (a bit marginal, might be a bit small)
Chevy Tahoe/GMC Yukon
Ford Explorer (maybe - same caveat as the Grand Cherokee)
The Envoy is a bit small for you, IMHO.
Forgot one - Dodge Durango.
I will consider your recommendations next week when I go looking again. I can tell you however, the Explorer has plenty of head room, but not nearly enough leg room.
I'd like to keep the cost at 40 grand or less,by the way, and a used one would be ok, if it was in good shape and had some sort of a warranty.
Escalades around here are being offered at less than 35K. 2005 models....
Apparently, they can't give them away..
I like the Durango...a lot...
The sheriff's deputies around here run them and they are very durable.
You are right. But then again, it is all in the marketing. Buyers think they are getting a "Hummer" so it makes them feel better. Who should we be to burst their bubble?
Good source, but I heard different from a #2 man in a dealership. Tanks I will need to further check it out.
OK, that narrows it down. You can toss the Envoy, Explorer, Durango, and Grand Cherokee, then. If you're looking for something used, try a certified preowned 00-04 Land Rover Discovery V8 or diesel. They have British Depreciation Disease and they don't have the problems of the Brit cars of old (BMW redesigned and built them during this period). The LR's are pretty lightweight, so you should get nearly your desired fuel mileage out of one - and they have a pretty good preowned warranty program. Another good option would be a used Land Cruiser or Lexus LX450/470. They're the same truck, well tested and proven over many years. They're Toyotas, so you know what that means, and their preowned warranty program is also decent.
Escalades are not on my list because the heavy electronics loads they carry as Cadillacs are prone to repeated and frequent breakdowns.
Something struck me - you could get a different answer than I and we'd both be perfectly correct. GM runs their dealers in "districts" and "regions" which often have different programs or incentives from each other. It may be that whatever department Dallas is in is doing dealer rebates because of the volume or lack thereof that the dealers are doing, where another department/region/whatever doesn't.
Which is just plain stupid, IMHO.
I drive a stock D-Max and there isn't a toyota that can take me. That's with only using 15 lbs. of boost. When I pass them, they see what little power their truck has.
You mean you drive an Isuzu with a GM body, right?
Too bad Ford and Dodge diesels are faster and more powerful out of the box. Also too bad that Nissan's coming out with a 600lb-ft diesel for their Titan 2500 next year.
Say, how's your headgasket holding up? Taken your truck in for the latest round of Duramax recalls?
By the way, you might want to look at the 05 Tundra specs for 0-60 and then look at the ones for the 05 DMax....
A couple of points:
The headline/story is in no way misleading. It is a simple declarative statement: GM June sales in 2005 are 41% higher than in 2004. Period.
The dealers aren't getting shafted. They still have the right to sell any car for whatever they think they can get. IMO, they should be grateful for the increased traffic due to this campaign.
out of the box, my duramax has never lost to a ford powerstroke or dodge. Should it happen, I won't mind because it's an american vehicle that got me. My other vehicle happens to be a ford car.
a buddy of mine bought a small trailer and the rear end went out on his tundra trying to tow it. I can haul a 26' trailor filled with water, 2 quads & a fishing boat and drive up a hill at 75mph.
when it comes down to it, the duramax may have an isuzu motor in it but, 90 percent of the truck is american made and that's what I will live & die by. All the foreign vehicles use one method: R&D (rip off and duplicate) american vehicles. I prefer to put my hard earned cash back into the american economy. So, you can have your toyota, I'll stick with my american made products that i love not hate. gotta go fly my flag now.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I own a Toyota. I don't. I own a Jeep and a Jaguar (among other things).
You might want to look really, really hard at your content label. Your transmission was assembled in the US of Chinese and other Asian parts with some slight US content. Your engine was made in Japan. Your truck was probably made in Canada or Mexico.
Tundras are made in the USA - Alabama, IIRC. They're going to make them in San Antonio in a few years.
What was that about "American made" again?
People start buying vehicles with a better reliability record again.
These new "prices" either stick for the 2006 model year, or sales WILL be down 59% versus this quarter.
Sure would hate to be a GM stockholder right now. Wonder how much the UAW pension plan has invested in GM stock? Can you say "double-whammy"?