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Bad News ("The conventional news media are embattled.")
NYTimes Book Review ^
| 7/31/2005
| RICHARD A. POSNER
Posted on 07/21/2005 6:18:53 PM PDT by bitt
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:18:54 PM PDT
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bitt
To: CHARLITE; neverdem; Blurblogger; doug from upland; Smartass; Tolik; Interesting Times; writer33; ...
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:20:56 PM PDT
by
bitt
('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
To: bitt
They agree on the related point that journalism is a profession rather than just a trade Crap.
It was when journalism decided it was a profession and founded journalism schools and hired it's graduates to replace tough street guys who could find out what was happening and then write it up clearly that it all went to hell.
So9
To: bitt
Darn. That is so sad. I think I'll go sit in the corner and assume the fetal position. </sarcasm>
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:26:20 PM PDT
by
RightWingConspirator
(Glad that Ted the Boorish Drunk, Hitlery the Witch and John Fonda/Fraud Kerry are not my senators.)
To: bitt
THE conventional news media are embattled. Attacked by both left and right in book after book, rocked by scandals, challenged by upstart bloggers, they have become a focus of controversy and concern. Their audience is in decline, their credibility with the public in shreds. And the bad news would be...?
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:27:39 PM PDT
by
Interesting Times
(ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
To: bitt; CHARLITE; neverdem; Blurblogger; doug from upland; Smartass; Tolik; Interesting Times; ...
It's gotten so bad that even third-world dictators throw people like Andrea Mitchell out of press conferences.
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:28:13 PM PDT
by
Enterprise
(Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
To: bitt
To [liberal] critics, the deterioration of journalism is exemplified by the attack of the ''Swift boat'' Vietnam veterans on Senator John Kerry during the 2004 election campaign. The critics describe the attack as consisting of lies propagated by the new right-wing media and reported as news by mainstream media made supine by anxiety over their declining fortunes. Like anybody in the MSM even bothered to report anything at all the Swift Boat Vets said--except in some vicious ad hominem attack on them.
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:28:48 PM PDT
by
madprof98
To: bitt
... must acknowledge an ethical duty to report the news accurately, soberly, without bias, reserving the expression of political preferences for the editorial page ... This is strong BS. Once the media sets itself up as attempting this, it puts itself on a pedastal and claims priviledges that are not healthy for a free society.
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:29:08 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: bitt
"The audience decline is potentially fatal for newspapers." Ouch! That's gotta hurt.
To: Jim Robinson
Well, let us know when the Washington Post or the LA Times or Gannett etc, beg you to excerpt them. Then we can all have a dancing on the grave party.
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:32:42 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: bitt
"We have to have a the leak....what happened to leaks???.....we can't investigate on our own!!!,
To: bitt
Die, you Rove hating deceiving mass media, die.
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:35:23 PM PDT
by
FormerACLUmember
(Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
To: bitt; CHARLITE; Jim Robinson; Interesting Times
YOWZA! It's time to NOT alter my tagline.
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:39:25 PM PDT
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
To: bitt
A rather serious analysis.....I liked this paragraph:
"Being profit-driven, the media respond to the actual demands of their audience rather than to the idealized ''thirst for knowledge'' demand posited by public intellectuals and deans of journalism schools. They serve up what the consumer wants, and the more intense the competitive pressure, the better they do it. We see this in the media's coverage of political campaigns. Relatively little attention is paid to issues. Fundamental questions, like the actual difference in policies that might result if one candidate rather than the other won, get little play. The focus instead is on who's ahead, viewed as a function of campaign tactics, which are meticulously reported. Candidates' statements are evaluated not for their truth but for their adroitness; it is assumed, without a hint of embarrassment, that a political candidate who levels with voters disqualifies himself from being taken seriously, like a racehorse that tries to hug the outside of the track. News coverage of a political campaign is oriented to a public that enjoys competitive sports, not to one that is civic-minded.
To: bitt
"must acknowledge an ethical duty to report the news accurately, soberly, without bias, reserving the expression of political preferences for the editorial page"
I can't wait for them to finally start doing this for the first time.
Attention journalists: the military keeps us safe and free, not you; all that you should ever do is report us the facts in an objective and totally unbiased manner. We know how to think for ourselves and we know where the voting box is, too.
Now go get over yourselves and start learning - finally - how to be objective.
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:44:27 PM PDT
by
Malleus Dei
("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
To: bitt
In related news, water is wet!!
Pray for W and Our Troops
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:47:37 PM PDT
by
bray
(Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
To: bitt
In addition to being an author, Richard Posner is a Judge on the U.S. Seventh Court Of Appeals, and a brilliant legal mind. Here's his bio: http://home.uchicago.edu/~rposner/biography
If only Ronald Reagan had appointed Posner to the Supreme COurt instead of the mediocre Anthony Kennedy in 1987.
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:50:21 PM PDT
by
Clintonfatigued
(Mike DeWine for retirement, John Kasich for Senate)
To: Enterprise
"It's gotten so bad that even third-world dictators throw people like Andrea Mitchell out of press conferences."There's my line of the day.
Thanks!
(snort/giggle/roll on the floor..)
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posted on
07/21/2005 6:52:19 PM PDT
by
STILL NORTON
(don't ask, computer went down, name went away.)
To: bitt
The audience decline is potentially fatal for newspapers.
"He'll die." -- Kirk,
"He's dead already." -- Scotty
Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan
To: bitt
That is... such sad... sad news...
What!!!!
Just kidding. Let's party!!!
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posted on
07/21/2005 7:02:24 PM PDT
by
sonofatpatcher2
(Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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