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Bad News ("The conventional news media are embattled.")
NYTimes Book Review ^ | 7/31/2005 | RICHARD A. POSNER

Posted on 07/21/2005 6:18:53 PM PDT by bitt

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To: HangnJudge
RE: "He'll die." -- Kirk,
"He's dead already." -- Scotty
Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan

God Speed, Scotty. Rest in Peace.

21 posted on 07/21/2005 7:05:13 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
"Scotty, you're as good as your word." -- kirk,
"Aye sir, the more they overtech the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." -- Scotty
Star Trek III: The Search For Spock

The more the MSM tries to bugger the news,
the easier the Bloggers can shoot them down
22 posted on 07/21/2005 7:11:50 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: sonofatpatcher2
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How many times da I have to tell ya...the right tool for the right job!" -- Scotty, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

And for Scotty - Warp Speed
We be already missing you
23 posted on 07/21/2005 7:20:37 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge
Re: "How many times da I have to tell ya...the right tool for the right job!"

Scotty said that? I've been using it as a pick up line for centuries... And it works!

24 posted on 07/21/2005 7:27:26 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: proxy_user
the media respond to the actual demands of their audience rather than to the idealized ''thirst for knowledge'' demand posited by public intellectuals and deans of journalism schools

I take issue with that postulation. Quite the contrary, the media has tried to taylor the audience by being proactive with a particular political slant and agenda.

public intellectuals and deans of journalism schools

Now there's a font of real world knowledge.

25 posted on 07/21/2005 7:30:37 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: bitt

I predict that someday, major newspapers like the NT Times and the Washington Post will be nothing more than glorified trade journals and idea feeders for other "journalists", much like individual departments at universities today have academic journals for their individual ice-cube tray departments. May the readerships of such papers become glaringly insular and myopic.


26 posted on 07/21/2005 7:36:14 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: STILL NORTON

Thanks for the kind compliment.


27 posted on 07/21/2005 7:48:18 PM PDT by Enterprise (Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
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To: bvw
Well, let us know when the Washington Post or the LA Times or Gannett etc, beg you to excerpt them. Then we can all have a dancing on the grave party.

BUMP!

28 posted on 07/21/2005 7:53:29 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: bitt

The conventional media has turned into toilet paper.

Let the flushing begin.


29 posted on 07/21/2005 8:01:17 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: madprof98
To [liberal] critics, the deterioration of journalism is exemplified by the attack of the ''Swift boat'' Vietnam veterans on Senator John Kerry during the 2004 election campaign. The critics describe the attack as consisting of lies propagated by the new right-wing media and reported as news by mainstream media made supine by anxiety over their declining fortunes.

Like anybody in the MSM even bothered to report anything at all the Swift Boat Vets said--except in some vicious ad hominem attack on them.

Exactly. Saying the MSM reported the Swifties as news is such BS (Barbara Streisand). They can't even be honest when they're 'trying' to critique themselves. The MSM is so easy to see through and are so predictable. They still think that we are to stupid to notice.

30 posted on 07/21/2005 8:15:02 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: bitt
The audience decline is potentially fatal for newspapers.

Too bad, so sad.

31 posted on 07/21/2005 8:24:15 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Enterprise
even third-world dictators throw people like Andrea Mitchell out of press conferences..

hee-hee!!!!

32 posted on 07/21/2005 9:02:39 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Enterprise
It's gotten so bad that even third-world dictators throw people like Andrea Mitchell out of press conferences.

And why shouldn't they? They see the media acting like a pack of jackles in the press conferences with President Bush. The dictators probably think it's a perfectly acceptable way of treating rude and belligerant people.

33 posted on 07/21/2005 9:12:51 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: bitt

The New York Times can read the hand writing on the wall. They understand what "Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin" means.

Specifically, they hear advertisers telling them your readership figures are shrinking, your audience demographics and future look grim - - - and the CEO thinks ad expenditures with you are showing a negative cost value analysis.


34 posted on 07/21/2005 9:34:39 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: bitt

Outstanding post !


35 posted on 07/21/2005 9:45:37 PM PDT by Enterprise (Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
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To: bitt
It all comes down to this: the MSM did not see the handwriting on the wall Alvin Toffler warned them about when he wrote "The Third Wave" back in 1979.

One of the chapters in that book, "De-Massifying the Media," stated that when communications technologies improve the hammerlock control of information dissemination by large companies will decline rapidly. With the rise of multi-channel cable and satellite TV, talk radio and the public Internet since 1979, the de-massification of the media has become 2005 reality.

36 posted on 07/24/2005 6:25:00 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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