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Brit Hume Grapevine: Why Did They Look Into It? (NY Times only 'asking questions' about Roberts)
Fox News ^ | 8/05/05 | Brit Hume

Posted on 08/06/2005 5:45:28 AM PDT by Libloather

Why Did They Look Into It?
Friday, August 05, 2005
By Brit Hume

Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:

The New York Times has been asking lawyers who specialize in adoption cases for advice on how to get into the sealed court records on Supreme Court nominee John Roberts' two adopted children.

There is no indication The Times had any evidence there was anything improper in the family's adoption of five-year-old Josie and four-year-old Jack, both born in Latin America. Sources familiar with the matter told FOX News that at least one lawyer turned the Times down flat, saying that any effort to pry into adoption case records, which are always sealed, would be reprehensible.

A Times spokesman said the paper was simply asking questions, and that only initial inquiries had been made.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adoption; asking; brit; brithume; foxnews; grapevine; hume; johnroberts; look; new; nyt; only; questions; roberts; times; why; york
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To: leadpenny

Our sons SEALED adoption records are only available to us or to him by way of a third party, usually an attorney, who would attempt to contact the birth mother. IF located and she chooses not to have contact with us, that is her right.. Her privacy is to be protected.


41 posted on 08/06/2005 7:04:46 AM PDT by codder too
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To: Guenevere

You're misrepresenting my post 8.


42 posted on 08/06/2005 7:05:09 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
"I'm not here to defend or speak for the NYT, but I don't see anything wrong with asking the question, "How can we legally get into sealed adoption records?"

What am I missing here? It's what reporters do"

You're missing the next question, which is "how can we illegally get into sealed adoption records"

43 posted on 08/06/2005 7:05:32 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater

Do you know that that is what someone was trying to do?


44 posted on 08/06/2005 7:08:39 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

The Times obviously thinks there's something there, and they are circling it like sharks.


45 posted on 08/06/2005 7:12:55 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: melt
IMO, the Times was trying to dirty the Roberts wholesome, 'perfect family' image by just getting it out there that, Gasp! the perfect children are adopted. Like the Bush National Guard memos, they just wanted a 'hook' so they could repeat ad nauseum a story everybody already knew. BTW, only the Times would think adopted children would make a family any less perfect.
46 posted on 08/06/2005 7:29:11 AM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: Mad Mammoth
Could anyone tell me where the nickname "Pinch" came from regarding Sulzberger

It's probably because the odious little quisling poofter can't keep his hands to himself around [a] NY Slimes' male interns and [b] Greek sailors. And as for the toy moose Pinchy-boy takes into the board meetings, it's really a Middlemarch teddy bear in disguise.

47 posted on 08/06/2005 7:35:22 AM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: Libloather
Give me a break....of all people, Judge and Mrs. Roberts would NEVER adopt children in any illegal way whatsoever. NYTs must have a layer of stupidity covering them now. Grasping at any straw they think they can find, STUPIDITY...is now the ONLY word for this liberal loon rag.

Besides, who would ever take a chance of an illegal adoption, knowing one day these children you love and have raised due to an illegal adoption could be taken from you...

NYT's desparation leads to a rathergate type major goof up. LOL

48 posted on 08/06/2005 7:50:10 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: leadpenny

Ah, but I seem to recall some of those lefty reporters insisting that the issues with Monica Lewinsky (and all the other bimbos) should not be looked into because it was Clinton's "personal life." And for the most part, they didn't. It took some serious prodding to get the story out there.


49 posted on 08/06/2005 7:54:45 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: mewzilla
I would've thought the paper's own legal eagles would've told them that. Were they asked, I wonder?

Perhaps they did, which was why they were asking outside lawyers

50 posted on 08/06/2005 7:57:02 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: MarkT; Grampa Dave; Miss Marple; Howlin
MarkT, I don't know if you're right, but it's one explanation that finally makes sense.

To ask a question which involves breaking the law may easily be seen as an inducement to others to do something illegal with the knowledge that the NYT, principled as they are, will shield the "source/perp." I believe sincerely this is not just an intellectual exercise on the part of NYT but rather the initial, albeit clumsy, steps of an illegal conspiracy to steal legally sealed and court protected records.

(Deserves repeating.)

51 posted on 08/06/2005 7:58:17 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: melt
"So there's nothing wrong with the adoptions."

I'm thinking they're hoping to attack the children by exposing their natural parents in some way--for instance, maybe the mom was a prostitute or a drug addict, or perhaps the dad was a criminal of some sort. Hold this over the Roberts family, and they're faced with harming their children at a young and tender age, or refusing the nomination.

52 posted on 08/06/2005 8:02:02 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Libloather

If there's an act on Earth less sordid than adoption, I'd like to know what it is. But the Times is sniffing around for dirt around the edges, and writes no story because no dirt was found.

I guess they're saying it's fair game to inquire about a candidate's abortion history ... and to write about it if it sheds new light on the candidate's moral views or judicial temperament?


53 posted on 08/06/2005 8:02:33 AM PDT by Norman Conquest (Kerry "honors a faith tradition." Bush believes in "God." You do the math.)
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To: leadpenny

As an adopted person let me tell you that my mother went to her grave with an overwhelming horror and dread about my adoptive status. She was upset when I told my fiance -now wife- that I was adopted feeling that in some way it reflected on her. She feared that I might someday want to learn about the biological relations I might have and it would be shattering.

This is a personal area of sensitivity equivalent-if not more sensitive -to the Schiavo case. The people who do this are ghouls and blood suckers and do not deserve your equivalence.


54 posted on 08/06/2005 8:11:22 AM PDT by sgtyork
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To: Libloather

Sealed means they aren't publicly available. It doesn't mean a liberal court clerk can't go into the storeroom, locate the records, make a copy and viola! Of course, such info couldn't be officially used by the Dem's but it could be used for a smear campaign.


55 posted on 08/06/2005 8:13:20 AM PDT by fso301
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To: leadpenny
What am I missing here? It's what reporters do.

Being that this is the NY Times, they are simply throwing a bait and see who bites. I am sure there's someone at the Times right now sitting by a phone waiting for the next unidentified source with details of the adoption. Of course they won't care how the source obtained the information as long as it is damaging to the Roberts nomination.

They truly are the NY Slimes!

56 posted on 08/06/2005 8:15:18 AM PDT by quesera (“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”)
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To: leadpenny
GEEZ they should have called me, it's a BI**H to get into one own adoption records, and you need one H*** of a good reason. just because is not one of them, you have to pitation(sp) the court, with a reason. and if the court likes your reason, the record will be open to you.

Like I said it a pain, I should know I am adopted.

57 posted on 08/06/2005 8:16:10 AM PDT by markman46
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To: leadpenny

Could you imagine the uproar if a conservative journalist had raised questions about a liberal judicial nominees children?


58 posted on 08/06/2005 8:24:40 AM PDT by canadiancapitalist
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To: Norman Conquest

I agree. What other sealed records does the NYT have a right to unseal?
There's no end....how about a candidate's parent's medical records so we can be enlightened to any premarital sex based on the candidate's birthdate? What about school records so we can verify if the candidate's parents were sufficiently active in PTA? Let's make his priest reveal what he has said in the confessional......


59 posted on 08/06/2005 8:25:03 AM PDT by chgomac
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To: Libloather

This is Bill Bennett's gambling and the Bush DUI all over again: Conservatives, because they oppose abortion (a.k.a. "the right to privacy"), have no right to privacy.


60 posted on 08/06/2005 8:25:41 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("Liberty is not a suicide pact."--Fouad Ajami)
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