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The Truth about "The Wall" (necessary repost!)
Washington Post ^ | 4-18-2004 | Jaime Gorelick

Posted on 08/14/2005 4:06:35 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite

The commission investigating the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has a critical dual mission to fulfill -- to help our nation understand how the worst assault on our homeland since Pearl Harbor could have occurred and to outline reforms to prevent new acts of terrorism. Under the leadership of former governor Tom Kean and former congressman Lee Hamilton, the commission has acted with professionalism and skill. Its hearings and the reports it has released have been highly informative, if often disturbing. Sept. 11 united this country in shock and grief; the lessons from it must be learned in a spirit of unity, not of partisan rancor.

At last week's hearing, Attorney General John Ashcroft, facing criticism, asserted that "the single greatest structural cause for September 11 was the wall that segregated criminal investigators and intelligence agents" and that I built that wall through a March 1995 memo. This is simply not true.

First, I did not invent the "wall," which is not a wall but a set of procedures implementing a 1978 statute (the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA) and federal court decisions interpreting it. In a nutshell, that law, as the courts read it, said intelligence investigators could conduct electronic surveillance in the United States against foreign targets under a more lenient standard than is required in ordinary criminal cases, but only if the "primary purpose" of the surveillance were foreign intelligence rather than a criminal prosecution.

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YaYa123 commented in another thread,

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"Gorelick wrote this op-ed while the 9-ll Hearings were going on, in direct response to AG Ashcroft's testimony. In the light of what we now know about Able Danger, that op-ed needs to be thoroughly dissected. Maybe that's why it's no longer available to read."

Unfortunately many links at WaCompost were expired but the one I posted above works.

1 posted on 08/14/2005 4:06:36 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
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To: YaYa123; backhoe; Guenevere; montag813; TAquinas; NormsRevenge; Travis McGee; writer33; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/14/2005 4:08:03 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

"Unfortunately many links at WaCompost were expired but the one I posted above works."

You can always give http://www.archive.org/ a shot with old stale links. Sometimes they are archived.


3 posted on 08/14/2005 4:10:52 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

If the courts come up with a truly stupid ruling based on an obscure law, YOU REWRITE THE LAW, rather than reinforce it with an official memo governing conduct of national agencies that puts national security at risk. Official Duh! memo from me.


4 posted on 08/14/2005 4:13:38 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: Stellar Dendrite; cgk

The fox guarding the hen house....thanks for posting, very important to pursue this story.


5 posted on 08/14/2005 4:14:04 PM PDT by scott says (Destination: FURTHER)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
to help our nation understand how the worst assault on our homeland since Pearl Harbor could have occurred and to outline reforms to prevent new acts of terrorism.

Prevent new acts of terrorism?

Simply stated "THE BUSH DOCTRINE".

6 posted on 08/14/2005 4:16:12 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Congressional Record: April 28, 2004 (Senate)

Page S4482-S4483







The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Texas is recognized under the

previous order.

Mr. CORNYN. Thank you, Madam President.





The 9/11 Commission



Madam President, earlier, I spoke on the importance of the 9/11

Commission maintaining its credibility given the important mission that

organization has undertaken to determine, first, a factual record of

the events leading up to 9/11, and then to make recommendations to

Congress and various Government agencies on how we can continue to

protect our homeland against any further terrorist attacks on our own

soil.

I spoke about the need of one of the Commissioners, Commissioner

Jamie Gorelick, to provide information about her knowledge of relevant

facts. She, of course, was Deputy Attorney General during the Clinton

administration under Attorney General Janet Reno.

I also made one other point that I think bears repeating here now;

that is, this is not about blame. The only person and the only entity

to blame for the events of 9/11 are al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden. This

is not about blaming the Clinton administration or the Bush

administration. This is about getting to the facts. This is about

getting good recommendations based on all the information and then

making the American people safer as a result.

On Monday, Senator Lindsey Graham and I asked the Justice Department

to produce any documents they may have in their possession relating to

Jamie Gorelick's involvement in establishing policies preventing the

sharing of critical terrorism-related information between intelligence

and law enforcement officials. It is the fact that those have now been

made public and, indeed, posted on the Department of Justice's Web site

at www.usdoj.gov which brings me back to the Senate floor to briefly

mention why I think Ms. Gorelick's testimony is even more important to

explaining what she did as a member of the Justice Department under

Janet Reno to erect and buttress this wall that has been the subject of

so much conversation and why it is so much more important that she do

so because the 9/11 Commission's credibility is at stake.

Documents posted today on the Justice Department's Web site

substantially discredit Ms. Gorelick's recent claims that, No. 1, she

was not substantially involved in the development of the new

information-sharing policy, and, No. 2, the Department's policies under

the Clinton-Reno administration enhanced rather than restricted

information sharing.

Madam President, these documents--and they are not particularly

lengthy, but they do raise significant questions about the decision of

the Commission not to have Ms. Gorelick testify in public. Indeed, the

only testimony we know she has given has been in secret or in camera,

to use the technical term. These documents make it even more important

that we get her explanation for these apparent inconsistencies and

contradictions.

Indeed, the document that Attorney General Ashcroft declassified and

released during the course of his testimony --giving his very powerful

testimony about the erection and the buttressing of this wall that

blinded American law enforcement and intelligence agencies from the

threat of al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden--these new documents reveal,

indeed, Ms. Gorelick did have a key role in establishing that policy,

which was ultimately signed off on and approved by Attorney General

Janet Reno; indeed, that she received and rejected in part and accepted

in part recommendations made by the U.S. attorney for the Southern

District of New York with regard to this wall.



Specifically, Madam President, as you will recall, the first attack

on American soil that al-Qaida administered was, in all likelihood, the

World Trade Center bombing in 1993. Indeed, the document that Attorney

General Ashcroft released pointed out that Mary Jo White, the U.S.

attorney for the Southern District of New York, was concerned about an

ongoing criminal investigation ``of certain terrorist acts, including

the bombing of the World Trade Center,'' and that ``[d]uring the course

of those investigations significant counterintelligence information

[had] been developed related to the activities and plans of agents of

foreign powers operating in [the United States] and overseas, including

previously unknown connections between separate terrorist groups.''

Well, in response to some draft proposals for establishing criteria

for both law enforcement and intelligence, counterterrorism officials,

Ms. Gorelick noted that the procedures that were adopted at her

recommendation by the Justice Department under Attorney General Janet

Reno went beyond what is legally required. Indeed, I spoke earlier

about the fact that the USA PATRIOT Act brought down that law that had

been established both by this policy and, indeed, by policies that had

preceded it.

But it is important, in these new documents that have just been

revealed today, in response to my request and Senator Graham's request,

that there is, indeed, a memorandum by Mary Jo White dated June 13,

1995, in which she was given an opportunity to respond to the proposed

procedures that have maintained and buttressed this wall that blinded

America to this terrible threat.

Mary Jo White, in part, said--and the documents are on the website so

anyone who wishes can see the whole document, but she said, in part:



It is hard to be totally comfortable with instructions to

the FBI prohibiting contact with United States Attorney's

Offices when such prohibitions are not legally required. . .

.



She goes on to say:



Our experience has been that the FBI labels of an

investigation as intelligence or law enforcement can be quite

arbitrary depending upon the personnel involved and that the

most effective way to combat terrorism is with as few labels

and walls as possible so that wherever permissible, the right

and left hands are communicating.



Indeed, it was this lack of communication, which I think is

universally acknowledged, that contributed to the blinding of America

to the threat of terrorism leading up to the events of 9/11. So Ms.

White made what she called a very modest compromise and some

recommendations for change to this proposed policy.

In the interest of fairness and completeness, let me just say the

documents reveal there were two memoranda by U.S. Attorney Mary Jo

White, and they contain recommendations for revisions of the

policy, and that Ms. Gorelick, through and in cooperation with Michael

Vatis, Deputy Director of the Executive Office for National Security,

accepted some of those proposed changes and rejected others.



But then in these documents, again, which were finally disclosed

today in response to Senator Graham's and my request, there is a

handwritten note from Ms. Gorelick that says:



To the AG--I have reviewed and concur with the Vatis/

Garland recommendations for the reasons set forth in the

Vatis memo. Jamie.



So it is clear Ms. Gorelick was intimately involved with

consideration of the arguments, both pro and con, on establishing this

policy which, according to her own memo, went well beyond what the law

required. Thus, it becomes even more clear she is a person with

knowledge of facts that are relevant and indeed essential to the

decisionmaking process of the 9/11 Commission.

I wish it stopped there, but it does not. Indeed, it appears these

new documents contradict or at least require clarification by Ms.

Gorelick of subsequent statements that she has made on the 9/11

Commission. For example, in a broadcast on CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports,

Wolf Blitzer asked her:



Did you write this memorandum in 1995 . . .



By reference, this was the one that was declassified by Attorney

General Ashcroft that established these procedures building the wall

and blinding America to this terrible threat.

He asked:





[[Page S4483]]





Did you write this memorandum in 1995 that helped establish

the so-called walls between the FBI and CIA?



Ms. Gorelick said:



No. And again, I would refer you back to what others on the

commission have said. The wall was a creature of statute. It

existed since the mid-1980s. And while it is too lengthy to

go into, basically the policy that was put out in the mid

1990s, which I didn't sign, wasn't my policy in any way. It

was the Attorney General's policy, was ratified by Attorney

General Ashcroft's deputy as well on August of 2001.



In other words, Ms. Gorelick, notwithstanding the fact that her

initials as Deputy Attorney General appear on the very memos

considering recommendations, both pro and con, with regard to

establishing these procedures, in spite of the fact she appears by

these documents to have been intimately involved in the adoption and

establishment of these procedures, said: I didn't sign this memorandum

and it wasn't my policy.

Well, at the very least it is clear that it was the policy of the

Attorney General, based on her explicit recommendation, and that she

consciously adopted in some cases and rejected in others the

recommendation of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New

York with regard to sharing of information between law enforcement and

counterintelligence authorities.

Finally, another example of an apparent contradiction, and maybe one

that Ms. Gorelick could explain if she would testify in public, as I

and others have requested, before the Commission, she said in an op-ed

that appeared in the Washington Post, April 18, 2004, entitled ``The

Truth About the Wall,'' in giving the various reasons for her side of

the story in response to the testimony of Attorney General Ashcroft and

the revelation of this previously classified document:



Nothing in the 1995 guidelines prevented the sharing of

information between criminal and intelligence investigators.



That appears to directly contradict what is contained in these

documents. I would imagine if asked to provide her own testimony, Mary

Jo White, the now retired former U.S. attorney for the Southern

District of New York, would beg to differ.

The primary purpose of this is not to cast blame. We know where the

blame lies. But it is important the 9/11 Commission get an accurate

record, a historical record of the events leading up to September 11.

If, in fact, there is a way for Ms. Gorelick to shed some light on this

subject, indeed, if there is a way for her to clarify or reconcile the

apparent contradictions between what these newly released records

demonstrate and her public statements and writings, then she ought to

be given a chance to do so.

If she does not avail herself of that opportunity, if the Commission

refuses to hear from this person in public and to give the American

people the benefit of this testimony in public in a way that they have

done with Attorney General Janet Reno and former FBI Director Louis

Freeh, current FBI Director Robert Mueller, George Tenet, Director of

Central Intelligence, and Attorney General John Ashcroft, if they

refuse, if they continue to refuse to avail themselves of this public

testimony and the opportunity for questions to be asked about these

apparent contradictions, they will have administered a self-inflicted

wound. The public will be left, at the conclusion of the 9/11

Commission, with grave doubts about the impartiality and the judgment

of the Commissioners who have refused to allow the American people the

benefit of this relevant and important testimony.

I yield the floor.

The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oregon.


7 posted on 08/14/2005 4:18:09 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Stellar Dendrite
She is now in full defense spin mode.


8 posted on 08/14/2005 4:18:20 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Peach

"No controlling legal authority......"

9 posted on 08/14/2005 4:19:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

In June 1995, U.S. Attorney for New York's Southern District Mary Jo White warned the Justice Department that Gorelick's prohibition against intelligence sharing would hamper U.S. counterterrorism efforts.
"It is hard to be totally comfortable with instructions to the FBI prohibiting contact with the United States Attorney's Offices when such prohibitions are not legally required," White wrote on June 13, 1995, in a memo reported Friday by the New York Post's Deborah Orin.

"The most effective way to combat terrorism is with as few labels and walls as possible so that wherever permissible, the right and left hands are communicating," advised White, who was then in the midst of prosecuting the 1993 World Trade Center bombers.

According to Orin, however, "White was so upset that she bitterly protested with another memo - a scathing one" - blasting Gorelick's wall of separation.

While the former Clinton official and her fellow 9/11 commissioners have so far declined to make the second memo public, the Post reports that White used it to warn that Gorelick's wall "hindered law enforcement and could cost lives."

The 9/11 Commission omitted any mention of White's scathing second warning to Gorelick from its final report.

"Nor does the report include the transcript of its staff interview with White," the Post said.

The revelation that the 9/11 Commission covered up White's full account comes on the heels of news that Gorelick's wall may have prevented the FBI from learning that lead 9/11 hijackers Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi had entered the U.S. and had been identified by military intelligence as terrorist threats a year before the attacks.

On Wednesday, Rep. Curt Weldon, who uncovered the Atta-al-Shehhi revelation, complained: "There was no reason not to share this information with the FBI, except that the firewalls that existed back then were so severe that they wouldn't let these agencies talk to one another."


10 posted on 08/14/2005 4:19:30 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Alan Colmes gave this the-wall-was-already-there-she-just-continued-the practice rationalization to Newt Gingrich (who wussed out and went along with him!).

As I sat there, I wondered how Alan would react if Clinton did NOT change the no-abortions-on-military-bases policy (which was already there!), or if I told him "Hey, Alan, once ONE person abused prisoners at Abu Grahbe, the others were just continuing the practice!"

11 posted on 08/14/2005 4:19:35 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I predict the DUmmie crowd will say that "attacking" Sheehan and Gorelick is just a rightwing antifeminist blah blah blah, which of course ignores their demonization of Condi Rice, various female Bush judicial appointees, etc. etc.


12 posted on 08/14/2005 4:21:53 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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To: Peach

When Gorelick took office in 1994, the CIA was reeling from the news that a Russian spy had been found in CIA ranks, and Congress was hungry for a quick fix. A month after Gorelick was sworn in, Bill Clinton issued Presidential Decision Directive 24. PDD 24 put intelligence gathering under the direct control of the president’s National Security Council, and ultimately the White House, through a four-level, top-down chain of command set up to govern (that is, stifle) intelligence sharing and cooperation between intelligence agencies. From the moment the directive was implemented, intelligence sharing became a bureaucratic nightmare that required negotiating a befuddling bureaucracy that stopped directly at the President’s office.



First, the directive effectively neutered the CIA by creating a National Counterintelligence Center (NCI) to oversee the Agency. NCI was staffed by an FBI agent appointed by the Clinton administration. It also brought multiple international investigations underway at the time under direct administrative control. The job of the NCI was to “implement counterintelligence activities,” which meant that virtually everything the CIA did, from a foreign intelligence agent’s report to polygraph test results, now passed through the intelligence center that PDD 24 created.



NCI reported to an administration-appointed National Counterintelligence Operations Board (NCOB) charged with “discussing counterintelligence matters.” The NCOB in turn reported to a National Intelligence Policy Board, which coordinated activities between intelligence agencies attempting to work together. The policy board reported “directly” to the president through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs.



The result was a massive bureaucratic roadblock for the CIA – which at the time had a vast lead on the FBI in foreign intelligence – and for the FBI itself, which was also forced to report to the NCOB. This hampered cooperation between the two entities. All this occurred at a time when both agencies were working separate ends of investigations that would eventually implicate China in technology transfers and the Democratic Party in a Chinese campaign cash grab.



And the woman charged with selling this plan to Congress, convincing the media and ultimately implementing much of it? Jamie Gorelick.



Many in Congress, including some Democrats, found the changes PDD 24 put in place baffling: they seemed to do nothing to insulate the CIA from infiltration while devastating the agency’s ability to collect information. At the time, Democrat House Intelligence Chairman Dan Glickman referred to the plan as “regulatory gobbledygook." Others questioned how FBI control of CIA intelligence would foster greater communication between the lower levels of the CIA and FBI, now that all information would have to be run through a multi-tier bureaucratic maze that only went upward.



Despite their doubts, Gorelick helped the administration sell the plan on Capitol Hill. The Directive stood.



But that wasn’t good enough for the Clinton administration, which wanted control over every criminal and intelligence investigation, domestic and foreign, for reasons that would become apparent in a few years. For the first time in Justice Department history, a political appointee, Richard Scruggs – an old crony or Attorney General Janet Reno’s from Florida – was put in charge of the Office of Intelligence and Policy Review (OIPR). OIPR is the Justice Department agency in charge of requesting wiretap and surveillance authority for criminal and intelligence investigations on behalf of investigative agencies from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. The court’s activities are kept secret from the public.



A year after PDD 24, with the new bureaucratic structure loaded with administration appointees, Gorelick drafted the 1995 memo Attorney General John Ashcroft mentioned while testifying before the 9/11 Commission. The Gorelick memo, and other supporting memos released in recent weeks, not only created walls within the intelligence agencies that prevented information sharing among their own agents, but effectively walled these agencies off from each other and from outside contact with the U.S. prosecutors instrumental in helping them gather the evidence needed to make the case for criminal charges.



The only place left to go with intelligence information – particularly for efforts to share intelligence information or obtain search warrants – was straight up Clinton and Gorelick’s multi-tiered chain of command. Instead, information lethal to the Democratic Party languished inside the Justice Department, trapped behind Gorelick’s walls.



The implications were enormous. In her letter of protest to Attorney General Reno over Gorelick’s memo, United States Attorney Mary Jo White spelled them out: “These instructions leave entirely to OIPR and the (Justice Department) Criminal Division when, if ever, to contact affected U.S. attorneys on investigations including terrorism and espionage,” White wrote. (Like OIPR, the Criminal Division is also part of the Justice Department.)



Without an enforcer, the walls Gorelick’s memo put in place might not have held. But Scruggs acted as that enforcer, and he excelled at it. Scruggs maintained Gorelick’s walls between the FBI and Justice's Criminal Division by threatening to automatically reject any FBI request for a wiretap or search warrant if the Bureau contacted the Justice Department's Criminal Division without permission. This deprived the FBI, and ultimately the CIA, of gathering advice and assistance from the Criminal Division that was critical in espionage and terrorist cases.



It is no coincidence that this occurred at the same time both the FBI and the CIA were churning up evidence damaging to the Democratic Party, its fundraisers, the Chinese and ultimately the Clinton administration itself. Between 1994 and the 1996 election, as Chinese dollars poured into Democratic coffers, Clinton struggled to reopen high-tech trade to China. Had agents confirmed Chinese theft of weapons technology or its transfer of weapons technology to nations like Pakistan, Iran and Syria, Clinton would have been forced by law and international treaty to react.



Gorelick’s appointment to the job at Justice in 1994 occurred during a period in which the FBI had begun to systematically investigate technology theft by foreign powers. For the first time, these investigations singled out the U.S. chemical, telecommunications, aircraft and aerospace industries for intelligence collection.



By the time Gorelick wrote the March 1995 memo that sealed off American intelligence agencies from each other and the outside world, all of the most critical Chinagate investigations by American intelligence agencies were already underway. Some of their findings were damning:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13516


13 posted on 08/14/2005 4:22:12 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Good find, Stellar.


14 posted on 08/14/2005 4:23:06 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Darkwolf377

""Hey, Alan, once ONE person abused prisoners at Abu Grahbe, the others were just continuing the practice!""

LOL


15 posted on 08/14/2005 4:23:16 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

As others have pointed out, even without Able Danger,
the very fact that Gorelick felt it necessary to write
this op-ed proves that her proper role in the 9/11
investigation was as hostile material witness, and
absolutely not as a member of the Commission.


16 posted on 08/14/2005 4:26:00 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Stellar Dendrite

thanks much for posting gorelick's WashPost op ed.


17 posted on 08/14/2005 4:26:03 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@CYA.com)
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To: YaYa123; Peach

I keep checking drudge's page...no sign of able danger. If he doesn't cover this story, he's a total phony.


18 posted on 08/14/2005 4:28:14 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The presence of "peace" is the absence of opposition to socialism -- Marx)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

It's the biggest story in the country, and Drudge is 100% mute on the subject. Shameful.


19 posted on 08/14/2005 4:34:12 PM PDT by Peach
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To: scott says; Stellar Dendrite
cross-referencing:

Able Danger, the 9/11 Commission & the Strange (But Now Explainable) Actions of Sandy Berger


20 posted on 08/14/2005 4:38:32 PM PDT by cgk (Keeper: Malkin/Ollie/Charen and Pro-life/pro-baby ping lists!)
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