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Gas prices hit high
CNN ^ | August 14, 2005

Posted on 08/15/2005 6:06:24 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

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To: TXBSAFH
Say that when an dem is in the whitehouse in 2009. Its the economy stupid part 2.

So you value power more than truth? Just a question.

221 posted on 08/16/2005 8:42:20 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: thackney

Yes I did.


222 posted on 08/16/2005 8:43:02 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: TXBSAFH

Please make your suggestions for government activism in prices. Thank you.


223 posted on 08/16/2005 8:45:13 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: Protagoras
I do not want to see a dem in the 2009. And I have a question for you where is GWB, the silence is deafening. Why has he not urged new drilling once more. When the economy goes south the party in power pays. As for truth I believe the truth is the price is being manipulated to these highs by speculation and collusion.
224 posted on 08/16/2005 8:46:32 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: Protagoras

Open up drilling in anwar, off the Cal. coast. More drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. The federal government has the poweer to call this an emergency and pass a law superceeding the states right to delay of stop this drilling.


225 posted on 08/16/2005 8:48:19 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: TXBSAFH
As for truth I believe the truth is the price is being manipulated to these highs by speculation and collusion.

How?

226 posted on 08/16/2005 8:50:50 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: TXBSAFH
As for truth I believe the truth is the price is being manipulated to these highs by speculation and collusion.

The truth isn't that it's happening, it's that you have been deluded into believing it.

227 posted on 08/16/2005 8:52:28 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: Protagoras

I believe this as do many others I talk to. And you are deluded if you do not hink that this will cost the republicans in the next election. Why have they not renewed a call for more drilling?


228 posted on 08/16/2005 8:54:31 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: TXBSAFH
And you are deluded if you do not hink that this will cost the republicans in the next election. Why have they not renewed a call for more drilling?

If you priority is drilling, do you think the democrats will meet that need? Work at the primary level to promote republicans who support expanding the development of our Natural Resources.

229 posted on 08/16/2005 8:56:53 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ctdonath2

Indirect taxes hit the corporations every step of the way. Even the extraction of the raw crude from the ground is taxed. They probably tax the exhaust from the vehicle's engine seven ways. Everybody pays, sometimes in multiples.


230 posted on 08/16/2005 8:56:57 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: thackney

The republican aren't. And lets be blunt here Jpoe Sixpack does not care. Historically when the economy is bad and prices high the party in power loses elections.


231 posted on 08/16/2005 8:59:05 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: TXBSAFH
The federal government has the poweer to call this an emergency and pass a law superceeding the states right to delay of stop this drilling.

It's not an emergency.

And your dream of the federal government unconstitutionally taking power from the states is a Democratic wet dream. Vote for Hillary, she agrees with you.

Of course, Republicans are now the same as Dems when it comes to anti free market big government, so I guess I understand after all.

232 posted on 08/16/2005 9:00:30 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: Protagoras

I think thast a large number of Americans would disagree with you on this being an emergency. I do. This kind of rise if not stopped and turned back could cause a recesion. Many people in this country would care a great deal on that.


233 posted on 08/16/2005 9:03:21 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: biblewonk; GraniteStateConservative
I took FOAD to be F-ck Off And Die. I don't ever recall Jesus saying anything remotely similar.

Now, the original context of this BS was high gas prices and how biblewonk was so much enjoying them and the pain it inflicts on those around him. This proves biblewonk to be shallow, sort sighted, and mean spirited.

I'm done with the both of you. Don't ping me again.
234 posted on 08/16/2005 9:10:13 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller ( Islam = Evil. Don't believe me. Read the koran for yourself.)
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To: TXBSAFH
I think thast a large number of Americans would disagree with you on this being an emergency.

I agree many think that way, but it is a reactionary point of view not based in reality. What has been the change in the cost per mile of transportation over the past couple years? Include vehicle, depreciation, interest rates, maintenance, insurance as well as fuel. If you take a new Chevy Tahoe, drive it four years at 12,000 miles per year, changing gas price from $1.50 to $2.50 increases the cost per mile about 10%.

235 posted on 08/16/2005 9:14:27 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: TXBSAFH
I think thast a large number of Americans would disagree with you on this being an emergency.

Who cares? That makes it an emergency?

I do.

Many people are sucked into every single bugaboo that comes along. Prices of commodities have risen and fallen for as long as man has existed. It's the natural order of things, not an emergency.

This kind of rise if not stopped and turned back could cause a recesion.

So you should be advocating the government get out of the energy business altogether. Instead you are arguing for government to set prices and grab power unconstitutionally.

Many people in this country would care a great deal on that.

And most of them are Democrats advocating government interference in the free market. No REAL conservatives are numbered among them.

236 posted on 08/16/2005 9:14:59 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: thackney

>>>So what do you mean by help out if you are not asking for a hand out?>>>

So in your mind, help equals handout. Sad.

I mean help in dealing with the oil companies who are raking in record numbers in profits, but GAUGE (which is illegal already) the consumers. How about working with the refineries and stop this nonsense of pandering to the environmental wackos. How about working with the middle eastern countries who are taking advantage of us after us remaining loyal to them after all these years when we could have found different fuel sources.

That is not asking the government to give me money.


237 posted on 08/16/2005 9:17:25 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Protagoras; thackney

If this causes the recession I think it will then those who are laid off will they go "Oh shucks its the free market nothing I can do." Or will they look to support the party out of power who has a history of pandering to economic problems. You decide.

As for government interferring they do it all the time. And I do not call it interferring to have them open up new large domestic reserves for us. I call that smart energy police in light of the current situation.

And as for amny peoiple. I live in TX. Most of my family and friends are connected in some way to the oil patch and they are saying this too. Most voted for Bush as well. And do not get me wrong he is still a dang sight better the the fop from Mass. But I and quite a few I have talked to have not been impressed with him as of late.


238 posted on 08/16/2005 9:26:00 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: RightWhale
Well, I do wish we'd gone down the clean burn road long ago, a 30% price rise would be less painful with 30% better MPG.

Beside getting better MPG, we'd not need those darn cat converters which eventually clog up and ruin engines by gradually backing excessive heat up into the lower end of the engine, melting the Teflon coating on the lowest piston ring ( the oil scavenging ring).

The loss of power, etc. develops so slowly that most people just want a new car with pep & zing, like when their car didn't have a clogged cat. You'd almost think someone wanted it that way.

I'm cynical about this because I grew up next door to an automotive research center where alot of this type of intricate planned obsolescence was developed & perfected.

Knowing & seeing first hand how much time and effort was put into this aspect of automotive deception, I can only assume they left few other turns unstoned.

239 posted on 08/16/2005 9:33:55 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: TXBSAFH
If this causes the recession I think it will then those who are laid off will they go "Oh shucks its the free market nothing I can do." Or will they look to support the party out of power who has a history of pandering to economic problems. You decide.

You value power over truth. AND since you embrace the Democrats ideology, I have no idea why you are afraid of them being elected.

As for government interferring they do it all the time.

People murder other people all the time too.

And I do not call it interferring to have them open up new large domestic reserves for us.

Neither do I. You want government out of the energy business? So do I, we have no issues in that case.

But I and quite a few I have talked to have not been impressed with him as of late.

Basically, he sucks. Which would only be worse if he advocated government price controls.

Now, you have advocated removing government impediments to energy production, so tell how you will accomplish that.

BTW, a hard look at ANWR and all the rest of our domestic reserves will show that any impact it may have on prices would be small and would never come as quickly as you indicate would be helpful to increase supply in sufficient quantity to address current prices.

So, now what?

240 posted on 08/16/2005 9:38:45 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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