Posted on 08/19/2005 11:02:33 AM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
By HEIDI SINGER and CYNTHIA R. FAGENFri Aug 19, 6:00 AM ET
A posh Jersey Shore eatery, under fire for referring to a pair of diners as a "Jew Couple" on their check, is in hot water again.
Longtime customer Joanne Fordyce said she was outraged when she noticed that her check from Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Loch Arbour printed, just below her table number, "Dirty Joanne."
"They're real nice to your face and then they let you know how they really feel when you get the check," said an outraged Fordyce, a human-resources director.
She said she was so shocked, she held onto her July 15, 2004, receipt for a year.
Fordyce said she bought $9 worth of cocktails at the bar, and added a generous $5 tip.
Later, she noticed the "Dirty" insult.
"How nice could I be? I felt like an ass after that," she said.
"I was going to let it go, but now I see they are still doing it.
"This is definitely not the normal practice if you want to stay in business. I know there are plenty of my friends that have had bad experiences there. That's why they don't go anymore."
She said that in her case, it was a female bartender who wrote up the check.
"I don't know, maybe the bartender is jealous because we drive a Mercedes. But they don't have to be jealous any longer. We just don't want to go there and be treated like this," she said angrily.
Fordyce, 34, said she decided to come forward after reading about diner Elliot Stein's shocking experience at Parkhill's, in Wednesday's Post.
In that July 8 incident, Stein's check referred to the 23-year-old Brooklyn shoe buyer and his girlfriend, Jennifer Cassin, as "Jew Couple."
"This is still going on? It's amazing," Fordyce said in disbelief.
She said she had a similar experience to Stein's when she went to complain to the same manager, Malia Wells, and received the cold shoulder.
"I was blown off like it didn't matter," said Fordyce, who lives in the area. "There was no apology."
Fordyce, who had been a Parkhill patron for seven years, said she once spent $3,000 on a baby shower at the eatery.
Fordyce yesterday filed a complaint with the New Jersey Division on Civil Rights.
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That is surprising: DU and other leftists are rather racist. In contrast, I am standing up against those that condone racism. It is from them that the stench comes from. And from you, who uses that word so easily.
Why would a business do that? Sounds like some stupid workers. I foresee sensitivity training in their futures!
"'And, contrary to your post, private property rights are not granted by government, but by God. God freely gives; government freely takes (and tramples on).'
"This is not my opinion: you can find it in any literature on politics/economics/sociology. Briefly: when someone trespasses your property, the government (police) assists you in making your property whole precisely because it is the job of the government to enforce YOUR right. When you sell that property, you sing a contract upon which your rights to the property are transferred to the new owner. Contracts are enforced by the government.
"Hobbes wrote about the pre-goverment state of mankind, where property rights are enforced by the force of the owner himself. The literature often refers to that state of affairs as 'Hobbesian nightmare.'"
Certainly our founding fathers, who believed our rights flowed from God rather than the capricious hands of government officers, recognized that the rights we have in private property can be protected in courts of law. They also would have taken it for granted that private property owners could run their businesses as they pleased with very little government interference. They certainly would have been outraged by the notion that a customer who felt slighted by some insult, real or perceived, from a business proprietor would have redress to a Division of Sensitivity.
Best regards, EP
I can see the milk of human kindness is really flowing on this thread...
It appears that the "Fordyce" family of the Long Island and New Jersey area appear to be a bunch of Methodists.
www.fordyce.org
So I gues she meant "dirty methodist," which I can understand really. A disreputible lot.
You are absolutely correct --- that does explain the omission. Thanks for pointing that out.
Per fordyce.com, the fordcye family of the area don't appear to be Jewish.
Oh yeah. They are probably shredding like crazy though. Next thing I expect is for a disgruntled ex-employee to blow the lid off other improprieties there. Laziness in one area is usually indicative of others. ESPECIALLY in restaurants...
There is no doubt that the patrons of that eatery were cheated out of their gratuity by the stealth insults.
I'd take my business somewhere else where I would not be cheated. But not until I had some fun with that eatery though. :)
You should serve a barf bag when you serve up a picture of ugly Helen....aaarrrrrrrrggggggggtghhhhhhhhh!!!! MY EYES ARE HURTING.............
#1, no one is defending the restaurant.
#2, no evidence has been given that this latest example is "applied to Jews."
If Joann is Jewish, then I can see it as an anti-Semitic comment. If she is not Jewish, it is still a stupid and ignorant thing for a waitress and restaurant to do. But it isn't anti-Semitism.
Everyone seems to be assuming that this is anti-Semitic, for no good reason. Clint Eastwood isn't Jewish, is he?
SD
What was so childish in my question? If anything, yours is a really infantile remark.
The fact that it is such a bad idea for a business is actually what makes it funny to me.
It would also be funny to me if they kicked each customer in the ass as they walked in the door. Funny in the "that's no way to make your customer's happy" way.
"They also would have taken it for granted that private property owners could run their businesses as they pleased with very little government interference"
And if a business started to use blasphemy and speak out against God? Would Government become involved in the founding days? Providence RI is full of people who were shipped out with unpopular ideas and clubs. Government did get involved then, albeit a different case but they did get involved under the right circumstances and circumstances have changed.
LOL
"Dirty Joanne"??
Maybe the bartender was signing her name. LOL!
"Shame that some Freepers side with the abuser . . . must be Buchananites. Antisemitism is on the rise. And, unfortunately, it will end just like before. Humans are cruel creatures and IMHO the majority are not worthy of this beautiful planet."
I must have missed the posts that sided with "the abuser". Most of the posts I've read have expressed the opinion that the conduct of the restaurant employees was boorish and stupid, but have also noted that it is wrong to bring governmental agencies into the picture. It is not the role of government to salve someone's feelings or fine someone who has been insulting customers. To urge government action here smacks of being a neoconite. Big governmentism is on the rise.
I bet if someone called you "dirty," you'd make them take it back. ):-)
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