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Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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That leaves staff correct?
Earlier in one of Shep's reports he was asking a policeman where they could send the people who were arriving on their own, and found no help at all. Shep didn't know and the officer didn't know where to send them either. It was very tragic. Complete anarchy.
I read a report earlier that some NOPD are leaving with their families.
I can see shooting the morons stealing beer and TVs, but there are a lot of people who are taking what they need to survive.
The "looters" have become an emboldened, low-life, thieving, army. They are NOT stealing food & items for survival. They are shooting those in authority & rescuers "just because."
Which one of us thinks this would go into Day FIVE like this, massive chaos, attacks on citizens, etc. if the LOOTERS were ARAB TERRORISTS instead with chems or bios, unleashing it, and killing as they went along. We would have had special forces in there putting this down 48 hours ago.
But we CANNOT as a nation, bring us to go to the maximum, because the looters are Americans, not al-Qaeda, so we will probably have to wait another 2-3 days for EFFECTIVE MARTIAL LAW and critical special forces. (Political correctness?) It is a shame, because the devastation and loss of life is the same were they al-Qaeda, or normal indigenous street toughs with American citizenship.
We have to think of New Orleans situation as if IT WERE A FOREIGN ATTACK to get the total resources of the US military at work, IMHO.
Not so bad. Janet Sterno would not be a bad idea, imo.
From Peggy Noonan: -- http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/
Hurricane Katrina: The good, the bad, the let's-shoot-them-now.
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(snip) -- As for the tragic piggism that is taking place on the streets of New Orleans, it is not unbelievable but it is unforgivable, and I hope the looters are shot. A hurricane cannot rob a great city of its spirit, but a vicious citizenry can. A bad time with Mother Nature can leave you digging out for a long time, but a bad turn in human behavior frays and tears all the ties that truly bind human being--trust, confidence, mutual regard, belief in the essential goodness of one's fellow citizens.
There seems to be some confusion in terms of terminology on TV. People with no food and water who are walking into supermarkets and taking food and water off the shelves are not criminal, they are sane. They are not looters, they are people who are attempting to survive; they are taking the basics of survival off shelves in stores where there isn't even anyone at the cash register.
Looters are not looking to survive; they're looking to take advantage of the weakness of others. They are predators. They're taking not what they need but what they want. They are breaking into stores in New Orleans and elsewhere and stealing flat screen TVs and jewelry, guns and CD players. They are breaking into homes and taking what those who have fled trustingly left behind. In Biloxi, Miss., looters went from shop to shop. "People are just casually walking in and filling up garbage bags and walking off like they're Santa Claus," the owner of a Super 8 Motel told the London Times. On CNN, producer Kim Siegel reported in the middle of the afternoon from Canal Street in New Orleans that looters were taking "everything they can."
Cajungirl, here is something from the Advocate in Baton Rouge (is that the local paper?) indicating that a lot of it is not true:
Rumors rampant in Baton Rouge area
By CHAD CALDER
Advocate business writer
Baton Rouge is talking. Rumors are flying.
The problem is, a lot of them arent true, for instance, ones circulating today.
The Tanger Outlet Mall in Gonzales has not been looted.
The shops at Tanger Outlet Mall remain open for business, manager Bridgette Tullos said today.
We have not had a single report of shoplifting. We have not had a single report of looting, Tullos said. Our mall is safe and secure.
The mall has changed its closing time from 9 p.m. to 6 p.m. because a number of employees are without electricity, Tullos said, and the stores are trying to accommodate them.
Rebecca Rainer, spokeswoman for the Mall at Cortana, another subject of closure rumors, said some stores in the Mall at Cortana are closed because they dont have phone service and cant run credit cards. But the mall is open for business, she said.
Workers in the Governmental Building in downtown Baton Rouge began leaving their offices today, after employees became concerned about walking to their cars at the Governmental Building. They had heard rumors that cars were being vandalized.
On one of the basement parking levels, where many employees park, there was a report of a suspicious man walking around the cars. A search of the parking area found no one.
A police officer on the scene at the Baton Rouge River Center, where thousands of exhausted refugees are staying, said shortly after 10:30 a.m. that police were working their way through the center to check for weapons and searching the parking lot.
They had heard a rumor that someone had broken into a pawn shop and stolen weapons.
Davis Rhorer, executive director of the Downtown Development District, said his office and phone lines have been busy talking to people whove heard all sorts of stories.
He said people hear things on the radio and on the street, and it just grows.
Rhorer said rumors began circulating last night that the Chevron near the Centroplex had been looted, but there was a minor scuffle, he said, which had been quickly taken care of by police.
After hearing the state had closed all their downtown offices, Rhorer called the state Office of Facility Planning, which told him they had simply begun locking their doors.
Tangers Tullos said all kinds of rumors are flying around. This morning she said she received an e-mail asking about a non-existent carjacking.
The only unusual activity in the mall parking lot, Tullos said, is its use as a staging area for the state Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, the U.S. Coast Guard and the National Guard.
A story began circulating Wednesday that a gang of bikers left New Orleans, en route to Baton Rouge to loot the city with guns stolen from Wal-Mart.
Thank GOD for that! Those people volunteered, and they were in dire straits...it was Mad Max time outside the hospital last night.
I'd like to have 5 minutes with ms. sheehan.
Heartbreaking news..
FYI..today's NY Post has a blurb in its TV section that this coming Tuesday, SecDef Rumsfeld will appear on the David Letterman show..
I think we can thank corporate media for ramming rap music with songs like go kill a cop, got to find me a couple of whores, and other fine anarchy driven music being fed to these zombies.
You've summed it up. And anything that happens like this again, I think we will do exactly as you have said.
Back in 1957, the Arkansas National Guard was federalized by Ike to support integrating the public school. Bush may need to due the same to restore law and order in New Orleans if the governor doesn't have the courage to have them take charge and respond to looters with force, including gunfire.
Justice Department and Homeland Security briefing at 1:30 FNC just said (but it's already past that time so I don't know if they meant EST or Central).
Not every 'looter' is a bad guy. Some people are trying to survive. you really want cops out there going crazy shooting people? Let them get the people who are shooting. Let the others walk and concentrate on getting people out of there!
And where is Justice Thomas? Anyone heard an update since we heard before Katrina hit that he was "staying in N.O. with family"??
Aaron Neville was missing two of his nieces also.
Actually, I believe that CNN reported at some point that it *was* part of the "Plan" that NO had.
After San Fran 1906, most city disaster plans include turning off the gas system after a disaster until the system integrity can be verified. It's SOP in Dallas, I know that for a fact.
RECENT WWL
Updates as they come in on Katrina
12:31 PM CDT on Thursday, September 1, 2005
Tom Planchet
12:30 P.M. - WWL-TV: Charity Hospital is almost finished evacuating all their patients. Minimal food and water remains.
12:28 P.M. - (AP): Dozens of post offices were closed and mail service was suspended in parts of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. But officials said they are working to get mail to people. Click here.
12:15 P.M. - Gov. Blanco's press conference has been postponed until 1 p.m.
12:13 P.M. - Information for employees of the Orleans Parish Public School System: Payroll records unattainable at this time, according to school officials, though employees will be able to keep their health insurance, even those who were recently laid off. Employees are asked to call 1-877-771-5800 and leave their contact information.
12:11 P.M. - (New York Times): The NBA may move the Hornets out of New Orleans for the entire season. Click here.
12:07 P.M. - WWL-TV's Brad Panovich: Mother Nature reclaimed the Mississippi River delta. If she wants to move the delta, or move the city, then she will.
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