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NSIDC Data: Arctic ice 'disappearing fast'
BBC News ^ | Wednesday, 28 September 2005

Posted on 09/28/2005 5:14:50 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

The area covered by sea ice in the Arctic has shrunk for a fourth consecutive year, according to new data released by US scientists.

They say that this month sees the lowest extent of ice cover for more than a century.

The Arctic climate varies naturally, but the researchers conclude that human-induced global warming is at least partially responsible.

They warn the shrinkage could lead to even faster melting in coming years.

"September 2005 will set a new record minimum in the amount of Arctic sea ice cover," said Mark Serreze, of the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC), Boulder, Colorado.

"It's the least sea ice we've seen in the satellite record, and continues a pattern of extreme low extents of sea ice which we've now seen for the last four years," he told BBC News.

September lows

September is the month when the Arctic ice usually reaches a minimum.

The new data shows that on 19 September, the area covered by ice fell to 5.35 million sq km (2.01 million sq miles), the lowest recorded since 1978, when satellite records became available; it is now 20% less than the 1978-2000 average.

The current rate of shrinkage they calculate at 8% per decade; at this rate there may be no ice at all during the summer of 2060.

An NSIDC analysis of historical records also suggests that ice cover is less this year than during the low periods of the 1930s and 40s.

Mark Serreze believes that the findings are evidence of climate change induced by human activities.

"It's still a controversial issue, and there's always going to be some uncertainty because the climate system does have a lot of natural variability, especially in the Arctic," he said.

"But I think the evidence is growing very, very strong that part of what we're seeing now is the increased greenhouse effect. If you asked me, I'd bet the mortgage that that's just what's happening."

Confusing movement

One of the limitations of these records is that they measure only the area of ice, rather than the volume.

"One other factor could be movements of sea ice," said Liz Morris, of the British Antarctic Survey, currently working at the Scott Polar Research Institute in Cambridge, UK.

"If it all piles up in one place, you might have the same total amount of ice," she told the BBC News website, "and there is some evidence that ice is piling up along the north Canadian coast, driven by changes in the pattern of winds and perhaps ocean currents."

Most data on sea ice thickness comes from records of military submarines, which regularly explored passages under the Arctic ice cap during the Cold War years.

Submarines can cross the Arctic Ocean along tracks taken decades before, and note differences in the ice thickness above; but that may mean little if the ice itself has moved.

Professor Morris is involved in a new European satellite, Cryosat, which should be able to give definitive measurements of ice thickness as well as extent; its launch is scheduled for 8 October.

But she also believes that the NSIDC data suggests an impact from the human-enhanced greenhouse effect.

"All data goes through cycles, and so you have to be careful," she said, "but it's also true to say that we wouldn't expect to have four years in a row of shrinkage.

"That, combined with rising temperatures in the Arctic, suggests a human impact; and I would also bet my mortgage on it, because if you change the radiation absorption process of the atmosphere (through increased production of greenhouse gases) so there is more heating of the lower atmosphere, sooner or later you are going to melt ice."

Arctic warming fast

Though there are significant variations across the region, on average the Arctic is warming twice as fast as the rest of the planet, according to a major report released last year.

The Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, a four-year study involving hundreds of scientists, projected an additional temperature rise of 4-7C by 2100.

If the current trend can be ascribed in part to human-induced climate change, Mark Serreze sees major reasons for concern.

"What we're seeing is a process in which we start to lose ice cover during the summer," he said, "so areas which formerly had ice are now open water, which is dark.

"These dark areas absorb a lot of the Sun's energy, much more than the ice; and what happens then is that the oceans start to warm up, and it becomes very difficult for ice to form during the following autumn and winter.

"It looks like this is exactly what we're seeing - a positive feedback effect, a 'tipping-point'."

The idea behind tipping-points is that at some stage the rate of global warming would accelerate, as rising temperatures break down natural restraints or trigger environmental changes which release further amounts of greenhouse gases.

Possible tipping-points include

the disappearance of sea ice leading to greater absorption of solar radiation a switch from forests being net absorbers of carbon dioxide to net producers melting permafrost, releasing trapped methane This study is the latest to indicate that such positive feedback mechanisms may be in operation, though definitive proof of their influence on the Earth's climatic future remains elusive.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arctic; bbc; bush; canada; denmark; europe; globalwarming; greenland; ice; iceland; issue; kyoto; media; pollution; snow; uk; usa
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Please have your say!

Thanx!

1 posted on 09/28/2005 5:14:52 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
How is Antarctica doing?
2 posted on 09/28/2005 5:16:12 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: F14 Pilot

Threads are disappearing faster than the ice :-)


3 posted on 09/28/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by sourcery (Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
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To: F14 Pilot
"If it all piles up in one place, you might have the same total amount of ice," she told the BBC News website,

They have grasped the concept of three-dimensional space!

4 posted on 09/28/2005 5:16:55 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: F14 Pilot
Could there be more solar activity which may contribute to this?


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

5 posted on 09/28/2005 5:17:20 PM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: nuconvert; lepton; airborne; gondramB; bnelson44; sourcery; Valin; PhilDragoo; Eurotwit; seamole; ..

The straight line tracks a more than 8% decline per decade

6 posted on 09/28/2005 5:17:38 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: sourcery

:D!


7 posted on 09/28/2005 5:18:04 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

"Arctic ice 'disappearing fast"

Impossible!

http://www.globalclimate.org/Newsweek.htm


8 posted on 09/28/2005 5:18:18 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Izzy Dunne
I bet not.

they see no relationship between density, coverage, or mass.

9 posted on 09/28/2005 5:18:38 PM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: bnelson44

Greenland too.


10 posted on 09/28/2005 5:18:58 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: F14 Pilot

So... the Ice Age is finally over, then?


11 posted on 09/28/2005 5:19:17 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: F14 Pilot

Headline:

Artic iceholes shrink!


12 posted on 09/28/2005 5:19:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: rdb3

13 posted on 09/28/2005 5:19:24 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: rdb3

It could be solar, I keep reading that Mars is also experiencing global warming.


14 posted on 09/28/2005 5:20:36 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: F14 Pilot
but the researchers conclude that human-induced global warming is at least partially

Oh right, let's just ignore the same thing happening on Mars and all the evidence about how increased active Sunspots cycles are effecting the change and cling to the "Man Made Global Warming" dogma of the Church Of Junk Science. After all, that nice fat pipeline to the Federal Treasury will get cut if the "Science" bureaucrats ever admit the truth.

15 posted on 09/28/2005 5:20:39 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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To: rdb3
Global Warming on Mars

"For three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress..."

16 posted on 09/28/2005 5:21:08 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: F14 Pilot

This could all be due to the Sun's output increasing a bit, but that would give the environmentalists the idea that we must cut emissions even more than they demanded before.


17 posted on 09/28/2005 5:21:11 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Sam Cree

Pluto seems to have the same problem. (not that it's really a problem)

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html


18 posted on 09/28/2005 5:22:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: F14 Pilot
The Arctic climate varies naturally, but the researchers conclude that human-induced global warming is at least partially responsible.

What is appalling about articles like these is that they combine empirical facts with SPECULATION about the causes and present both as if they were on the same objective, 'proven' basis. Then when you challenge them on the speculative point they portray you as if you are sticking your head in the sand and denying the empirical point. Grrr.... Besides, I like the idea of global warming. Sorry about the Maldives and all, but it's going to cut my winter heating costs and we all know how important it is to save fuel these days. ;-)

19 posted on 09/28/2005 5:23:17 PM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: bnelson44

doing great!


20 posted on 09/28/2005 5:26:08 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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