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Clinic is caught in the fog of abortion war (Abortion Clinic Closes)
St. Louis Today ^ | 10.27.05 | Jo Mannies

Posted on 10/28/2005 10:39:33 PM PDT by Coleus

SPRINGFIELD, MO.

When Springfield Healthcare Center mysteriously closed its doors, Rosina San Paolo praised the Lord.

"I danced. I thanked the Blessed Mother. I thanked Jesus," said San Paola, 82, who has spent the past 22 years protesting outside southwest Missouri's only abortion clinic.

But another woman left a starkly different message on the clinic's answering machine after hearing the news that, as of Oct. 19, the facility had been shuttered.

"As a former patient, I just wanted to express my gratitude to everyone who works there," said the woman, who did not leave her name. "You are all godsends for what you do there. . . . I am extremely disgusted by the Springfield community."

Such polarized perspectives on the clinic and the city that harbored it highlight the continued tensions in the region, the state and the nation more than 32 years after the Roe vs. Wade ruling by the Supreme Court in favor of legalized abortion. And that's despite the continued decline in the number of abortions, in Missouri and the country.

As both sides of the abortion issue point out, the dissent goes beyond the surgical procedure. It includes the dispute over differences between RU-486, a pill that causes abortions, and Plan B, the so-called "morning-after" pill that prevents pregnancy.

A companion debate, nationally and in Missouri, focuses on whether pharmacists should be required to stock or dispense Plan B, and if it should be available without a prescription.

There's also a growing argument over the influence of sex education in reproductive choices, and whether groups like Planned Parenthood, which support abortion rights, should be allowed to provide sex information to public schools, even if they ask for it.

The political stakes were underscored this week when Gov. Matt Blunt, who lives near the clinic,

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: abortionclinic; abortionlist; abortionmill; abortuary
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1 posted on 10/28/2005 10:39:33 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


2 posted on 10/28/2005 10:39:45 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
"As a former patient, I just wanted to express my gratitude to everyone who works there,"

More than likely a repeat customer.

3 posted on 10/28/2005 10:42:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Coleus

Ridiculously euphemistic name for an abortion clinic alert! "Healthcare center" indeed.


4 posted on 10/28/2005 10:45:15 PM PDT by mjwise
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To: Coleus
despite the continued decline in the number of abortions, in Missouri and the country

40,000,000+ since June 1973 is more than enough. Illegal aliens stream into this county like water, but unborn potential citizens are left in the ashes. It gives the prayer "ashes to ashes, dust to dust" a bad name.

whether groups like Planned Parenthood, which support abortion rights, should be allowed to provide sex information to public schools

Not in my backyard. Never.

5 posted on 10/28/2005 10:48:12 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Coleus

"You are all godsends for what you do there..."

Notice the euphemism for "what they do".

God never sends people to kill innocents.


6 posted on 10/28/2005 10:52:57 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: gpapa
40,000,000+ since June 1973 is more than enough.

They have decimated the African American Race to the point that they are start lag behind Hispanic and Asian populations in CA.

8 posted on 10/28/2005 11:08:49 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Coleus
You are all godsends for what you do there...

Good grief.

What god? Moloch?

9 posted on 10/28/2005 11:15:20 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: GSlob


"protesting hag"???????
What a classy way to honor those who fought the good fight.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 11:19:17 PM PDT by mother22wife21 ("Hold ma beer, while I get in this here handbasket")
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To: Petronski

I don't know... It was Moloch, though, to whom Canaanites sacrificed infant children, wasn't it?


11 posted on 10/28/2005 11:37:53 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: Irish Rose

I think so. I'm going by memory, and my googling offered no help.


12 posted on 10/28/2005 11:48:11 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: GSlob

You're an ass.


13 posted on 10/28/2005 11:49:06 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: All
Meet GSlob (via the private mail he just sent me):

Maybe I am an ass, or maybe I am not: I happen to believe that other people effing is none of mine [or that 82 years old hag's, or yours, for that matter] effing business. Besides, speaking figuratively, why should one thrust oneself between other people's genitalia and play a prophylactics? It is an undignified role to play.

14 posted on 10/29/2005 12:25:42 AM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Coleus
"As a former patient, I just wanted to express my gratitude to everyone who works there," said the woman, who did not leave her name. "You are all godsends for what you do there. . . . I am extremely disgusted by the Springfield community."

If she is so supportive of the abortion clinic then why doesn't she leave her name? Could it be that her life now is not what would be viewed as "dreamery"? I suspect so.

15 posted on 10/29/2005 12:26:12 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Petronski

I think it was "Baal"


16 posted on 10/29/2005 12:45:34 AM PDT by boatbums (Isn't saying Mean People Suck...kinda mean?)
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To: I still care

When I get to heaven, what will I not hear the soul of an aborted infant (you know, the ones who are sucked out of the womb and fed through the industrial-strength garbage disposal) say?

"You are all godsends for what you do there..."

Of course this "client" is so proud of her patronage that she declines to leave her name.


17 posted on 10/29/2005 1:14:20 AM PDT by turnrightnow (bink's mom)
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To: Irish Rose

Huge metal man with bull head, fire between the legs baby placed in red hot arms. You nailed it


18 posted on 10/29/2005 1:42:26 AM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: kublia khan; Irish Rose; Petronski


http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=718&letter=M

Burning was an important feature of the rite.

http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/mythology/moloch.asp

Dictionnaire Infernal - Collin de Plancy (1863) (paraphrased)

The priests would then beat loudly on drums & other objects so that the cries would not be heard.
19 posted on 10/29/2005 2:25:23 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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To: kublia khan; Irish Rose; Petronski

20 posted on 10/29/2005 2:32:35 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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To: Coleus
"As a former patient, I just wanted to express my gratitude to everyone who works there," said the woman, who did not leave her name. "You are all godsends for what you do there. . . . I am extremely disgusted by the Springfield community."

What a selfish bitch, excuse my French!

Abortion Clinic Closes

Great news!!!!

21 posted on 10/29/2005 3:49:43 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: SaltyJoe

You would want the caustic soda at them horns!


22 posted on 10/29/2005 3:51:03 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Coleus

Keep praying! It is prayer that shuts these killing places down!


23 posted on 10/29/2005 9:15:51 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coleus
Lawrence (KS) abortion clinic closes because of funding woes

Eugene abortion clinic closes; surprising many (Hooray !!!)

Prayer credited for closing of abortion clinic [Eugene, OR]

Planned Parenthood will shut down 3 clinics [Indiana]

Persevering Students Help Close Abortion Clinic [Santa Paula, CA--Thomas Aquinas College]

Abortion Clinic Managers Quit After Being Outed by Operation Rescue [Wichita, Kansas]

One Man's God Squad: Troy Newman's plan to stop abortions in Wichita, Kansas

Baby Saved From Abortion is Baptized [New Orleans]

Thank You Bishop Rhoades: A Personal Account of An Abortion Protest With A Catholic Bishop -- still praying -- Harrisburg, PA

Judges rule civil suits against Planned Parenthood can proceed [Los Angeles, CA]

STOPP Planned Parenthood

CA: Abortion opponents hope to limit access for California girls (Prop 73)

Jill Stanek's Accurate Summary of Cincinnati Abortion Center Closing: 'Debi Does Ohio"

Clinic is caught in the fog of abortion war (Abortion Clinic Closes) [Springfield, Missouri]

24 posted on 10/29/2005 9:16:51 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coleus
[Clinic administrator] Collins, 41, and the mother of five, says she's been an advocate of abortion rights since she traveled to suburban Kansas City at the age of 16 to have an abortion and was appalled by the protesters and massive signs.

"I wanted to make sure that no one had the feeling I had," Collins said.

Let me guess: Guilt???

25 posted on 10/29/2005 10:21:56 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Salvation

Thank you for that list.


26 posted on 10/29/2005 10:30:19 AM PDT by Prov3456
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To: Coleus; sittnick; ninenot

An estimated 21,000 sliced, diced and hamburgerized innocent babies from 1975 to the closing of this little Auschwitz for babies at Springfield, Missouri. The clinic director was one Michele Collins who, with an Irish name like that, must have had Irish ancestors. Brian Boru would know what to do.


27 posted on 10/29/2005 12:43:09 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Petronski; GSlob; ninenot; sittnick; ArrogantBustard

Oh my, GSlob does have his/her/its undies in a bunch, huh?


28 posted on 10/29/2005 12:46:54 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: taxesareforever
If she is so supportive of the abortion clinic then why doesn't she leave her name?

One reason it is difficult to get accurate followup information on abortions is that a very large percentage of aborters use false names and addresses, and the abortionists don't try to stop them. Being largely a cash on the barrlehead kind of transaction, it isn't necessary to get a "billing" name and address.

No one in this odious business has any vested interest in the truth, from the mother's real name on down to the nature of the procedure itself.

29 posted on 10/29/2005 12:55:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Which means that all followup data provided by PP or other abortion facilities is non-factual, just like this report.


30 posted on 10/29/2005 3:09:03 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Petronski; GSlob
what did the kook, demonrat say?
31 posted on 10/29/2005 3:36:20 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

See #14.


32 posted on 10/29/2005 3:50:22 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: BlackElk

There's nothing at all undignified about putting an end to the industrialized slaughter of the unborn.


33 posted on 10/29/2005 4:46:23 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; AliVeritas; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; Augie76; ...

"Another one bites the dust!"

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

34 posted on 10/30/2005 5:22:23 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Fortunately, my voluminous 'fro saved me from a concussion.")
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To: Mike Darancette
More than likely a repeat customer.

I'm not saying there aren't any satisfied customers patronizing abortion clinics, but something tells me that call was probably from a pro-abort activist. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the call was made solely for the benefit of the media.

35 posted on 10/30/2005 5:25:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Fortunately, my voluminous 'fro saved me from a concussion.")
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To: Petronski; Irish Rose

You're correct, though I've seen it spelled as Molech most of the time.


36 posted on 10/30/2005 5:34:20 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Fortunately, my voluminous 'fro saved me from a concussion.")
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To: Coleus
CONGRADULATUIONS!!
I wish we could get our murder shop closed here in Mobile.

Kelli Rohrbaugh, the public affairs coordinator for Planned Parenthood, said the facility has no plans to open an abortion clinic in Springfield. With no such option, "a lot of people are turning to us, asking 'What's going to happen now?'" she said.

CHILDERN GET TO LIVE!!!!!
37 posted on 10/30/2005 5:39:05 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Coleus

bump


38 posted on 10/30/2005 5:43:38 PM PST by VOA
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To: Mr. Silverback

This is the best thing that could ever happen in any area. I want to be there to celebrate the day the last abortuary in America finally closes its doors for good.


39 posted on 10/30/2005 5:46:49 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Merry Fizzlemas, DUmmies!)
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To: Mr. Silverback; Petronski; Irish Rose
Lev 18:21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech,

Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

2 Ki 16:3 But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, yea, and made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel.

2 Ki 17:17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
2 Ki 17:18 Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel,

Jer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Jer 32:36 And now therefore thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, concerning this city, whereof ye say, It shall be delivered into the hand of the king of Babylon by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence;

Ezek 16:21 That thou hast slain my children, and delivered them to cause them to pass through the fire for them?

Baal, Molech, witchcraft, divination, etc. All seem to be sort of tied together. I don't think they are directly associated, but they do seem to follow each other around. They all appear to make God very angry.

Cordially
GE
40 posted on 10/30/2005 5:53:57 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: boatbums

I always thought Baal was the god of fertility, and to honor him they would have huge public ogys...I could be wrong...


41 posted on 10/30/2005 5:57:44 PM PST by Xenophon450 (In a world of spoonfed emotion, intelligence can save.)
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To: Xenophon450
Orgies*** grrrrr
42 posted on 10/30/2005 5:58:09 PM PST by Xenophon450 (In a world of spoonfed emotion, intelligence can save.)
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To: Xenophon450
baal
43 posted on 10/30/2005 6:14:45 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Petronski
Maybe I am an ass, or maybe I am not: I happen to believe that other people effing is none of mine [or that 82 years old hag's, or yours, for that matter] effing business. Besides, speaking figuratively, why should one thrust oneself between other people's genitalia and play a prophylactics? It is an undignified role to play.

Opposition to abortion is not opposition to sex. But I do think this reply explains why support of abortion is so strong because it's seen as necessity for responsibility-free recreational sex, since they've still failed to find a 100% perfect way to keep fertilization from taking place. It's the same motivation for their argument that condoms are the best way to deal with AIDS and so on. It's all about preserving their ability to "eff" without feeling guilty about it or taking responsibility for any of the negative consequences.

44 posted on 10/31/2005 6:46:06 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Coleus

I continue to pray ALL abortuaries go the same way!


45 posted on 11/03/2005 4:12:36 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: boatbums

It was Moloch...It was a large metal image of a cow in which a fire was lit at its belly, the children were sent through an opening in the image's mouth and the child would tumble down the "throat" and be roasted alive in the "belly". This was the God of fertility. It was one of the blasphemies that ancient Israel fell into and was condemned for!


46 posted on 11/27/2005 4:09:17 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("It was not for nothing that you were named Ransom" from CS LEWIS' Perelandra!)
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To: mdmathis6

Isn't interesting how, through abortion today, it is usually the firstborn that is still sacrificed to the god of this world (Satan)? The firstborn as well as all the "first-fruits" have always belonged to the true God and Satan tries to steal this as well.


47 posted on 11/27/2005 6:35:46 PM PST by boatbums (Isn't saying 'Mean People Suck'...kinda mean?)
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To: Prov3456

You're welcome. It's good to know that we are winning!


48 posted on 11/27/2005 6:39:03 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: GrandEagle

**I wish we could get our murder shop closed here in Mobile.**

Stand outside and pray! Did you see the list above? Prayer shuts them down.


49 posted on 11/27/2005 6:40:19 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coleus; All
Here's a wonderful story about a long vigil at a Portland Oregon Abortion Clinic:

Veteran abortion clinic protester enduring as he nears 100

50 posted on 11/27/2005 6:44:16 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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