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Man killed on American Airlines flight
Denver Rocky Mountain News ^ | December 7, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/07/2005 1:57:21 PM PST by Graybeard58

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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

And in a worse case scenario this all could have been an act and then he would have had a real bomb.


41 posted on 12/07/2005 2:19:17 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Just float him across the canal...you know, IT FLOATS!


42 posted on 12/07/2005 2:20:42 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: JamesP81
I find the various comments in this thread rejoicing at the death of another human being

I don't see a single comment on the thread prior to your posting that can even remotely described as "rejoicing" over the death of this individual.

Perhaps you're off your meds.

43 posted on 12/07/2005 2:21:33 PM PST by wideawake
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To: JamesP81

You appear to be a vegetarian who has found himself in a sausage factory.


44 posted on 12/07/2005 2:22:36 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( Tranzis won't let you vote but they will let you pay.)
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To: born in the Bronx

The mentally ill who refuse to take their meds -- or take too much.

Very common.

Very risky for someone with this history to fly these days.

I support 100% the action of the Air Marshall. I feel sorry for him that he killed someone --but that's what the Air Marshalls are supposed to do. Protect the lives of the passengers.

Wondering if the Air Marshalls on flights into and out of the country of Columbia are experienced -- I should think that might be the case.


45 posted on 12/07/2005 2:23:35 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: Graybeard58

Air Marshal Reserves Too Expensive: Congress
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1531114/posts

Good timing


46 posted on 12/07/2005 2:24:28 PM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: OldFriend
Indeed.

The marshal has no way to tell whether the guy was crazy, or joking or serious. He also has no way of telling whether the wife was serious or whether she was trying to buy a terrorist accomplice some time.

The marshal did the right thing, the system worked, and he should be happy that he reacted so swiftly and precisely.

If the wife knew that he was off his meds and failed to contact security or medical professionals in order to avoid a situation just like this, she and her meds-refusing husband alone bear any responsibility for his death.

47 posted on 12/07/2005 2:26:41 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Graybeard58

Was his name Muhommad?


48 posted on 12/07/2005 2:27:41 PM PST by Tx Angel
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To: OldFriend
"I find your naivete rather disturbing. Mentally ill people murder and maim others all the time"

I find yours even more disturbing, espicially when it is predicated by a falsehood. Only 7-10% of mentally ill patients have violent histories-most are intoverted, isolate, or are reponding therapeuticaly to medication. But that is never sexy enough for the news. We have a very skewed perception of this populace.

49 posted on 12/07/2005 2:28:12 PM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: wideawake
There is no time at all for second guessing, supposing, wondering, or hoping he's not serious.

Either we are serious about airline security or we're not.

50 posted on 12/07/2005 2:33:40 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: OldFriend
...the man simply didn't understand the order to stop.

So the air marshall explained it to him.

51 posted on 12/07/2005 2:34:36 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: 101st-Eagle
Nothing sexy at all about a man on an aircraft claiming to have a bomb.

If you want to take your chances that it's just the lack of medication then I pity you.

52 posted on 12/07/2005 2:34:43 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: 101st-Eagle; OldFriend
Mentally ill people do harm others all the time.

If only 7-10% are violent, they are still several times as violent as the sane.

53 posted on 12/07/2005 2:38:25 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Tx Angel

Ain't that the key question? Odd that there is still no identity of the perp. What do you suppose the chances are that this is indeed an Islamic we're talking about?


54 posted on 12/07/2005 2:39:57 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: thoughtomator

He's been identified by every TV staion, what more do you want. He's hispanic. An American citizen. His first name is Rigoberto and I can't remember his last name.


55 posted on 12/07/2005 2:42:59 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: thoughtomator

Why? If I don't take my medicine, is my wife legally responsible for my conduct?


56 posted on 12/07/2005 2:44:24 PM PST by RonF
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To: OldFriend

Don't have a TV here. Still, his race and citizenship do not answer the question. Remember Jose Padilla?


57 posted on 12/07/2005 2:45:42 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: thoughtomator

You have to get the award for the dumbest quote of the day.

I guess your parents are still responsible for everything you do too huh?


58 posted on 12/07/2005 2:46:44 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: RonF

Is a wife her husband's keeper?<P


59 posted on 12/07/2005 2:46:55 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: JamesP81
I agree. I'm not sure responses in this post rejoice in the death of the individual as much as they rejoice in the fact that air marshals did "what I had to do, Festus". Air marshals can't take a chance that someone may not be serious in their threats. It is sad that a life had to be taken. On the other hand, how many lives could have been saved had this been a real threat? No one can answer that, yet it is something that, post 9/11, must be considered.

I don't rejoice in a death, yet I do rejoice in the fact that our defenses have apparently worked. Yes, it may have been an innocent person killed(all the facts aren't in), but that's really beside the point. I myself am on numerous medications to preserve my life (if I don't take them I die...I wouldn't be a threat). I know the consequences of my actions should I not take them. The individual killed (or his wife) should certainly have known the possible consequences of not taking the medications prior to flight. There is no excuse for someone ignoring common sense. He and his wife are responsible, and should be held accountable.
60 posted on 12/07/2005 2:47:29 PM PST by bcsco
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