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Nagin: God mad at America, but also at blacks
nola.com ^ | 01/16/06 | Ap

Posted on 01/16/2006 1:59:45 PM PST by Ellesu

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Mayor Ray Nagin suggested that recent destruction from hurricanes Katrina, Rita and other natural disasters is a sign that "God is mad at America," and also mad at black communities for tearing themselves apart with violence and divisive politics.

"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin said as he and other city leaders commemorated Martin Luther King Day. "Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."

Joking that he may appear to have "post-Katrina stress disorder," Nagin, who is black, talked of an imaginary conversation with the late civil rights leader. They "talked," he said, while he was thinking Monday about what to say at the ceremony outside City Hall to kick off a walking parade in King's honor.

"I said, 'What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and make it a reality?' He said, 'I don't think that we need to pay attention any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said, 'The thing we need to focus on as a community — black folks I'm talking about — is ourselves.'"

Nagin told the crowd that he also asked, "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: blacks; happyholiday; katrina; mayor; mlkday; nagin; naginstranked; neworleans; stuckonstipid; tribulations; wrathofgod
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1 posted on 01/16/2006 1:59:46 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

what an a$$hole


2 posted on 01/16/2006 2:01:06 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Ellesu
"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country,"

Well, God may create hurricanes, but men invented school buses, Ray. But what man creates, one idiot mayor allows nature to destroy.

But beyond that, I fully expect to see Nagin's comments get similar treatment to Pat Robertson's similar utterances.

Yeah, right.

3 posted on 01/16/2006 2:02:24 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: Ellesu


WTF?


4 posted on 01/16/2006 2:02:25 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: Ellesu


Will the press jump on him for these Pat Robertson like comments?


5 posted on 01/16/2006 2:02:50 PM PST by msnimje (Senate Democrats ----------- Sound and Furry Signifying INSIGNIFICANCE)
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To: Ellesu
Mayor Ray Nagin suggested that recent destruction from hurricanes Katrina, Rita and other natural disasters is a sign that "God is mad at America," and also mad at black communities for tearing themselves apart with violence and divisive politics.

Guess this jokel doesn't read or he might have heard that the Pat Robertson bandwagon rolled off a cliff!

6 posted on 01/16/2006 2:02:53 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
God doesn't care about black people.

7 posted on 01/16/2006 2:03:11 PM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Ellesu

a black Pat Robertson


8 posted on 01/16/2006 2:03:12 PM PST by mfnorman
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To: Ellesu

He's been smoking the same stuff Pat Robertson got into.


9 posted on 01/16/2006 2:03:31 PM PST by freedomlover (The only reason you are still conscious is because I don't want to carry you.)
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To: Ellesu
Look for Nagin to put in a guest appearance on the 700 Club in the near future...
10 posted on 01/16/2006 2:04:23 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Ellesu

You know, this guy just gets dumber and dumber.

I'm sure this comment will gat the same anal exam from the MSM as Pat Robertson's comment did. Well, maybe not....

By the way Mayor, how are those parked school buses doing?


11 posted on 01/16/2006 2:04:32 PM PST by GOPRaleigh (Liberals - who needs 'em.)
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To: Ellesu
"It's time for all of us good folk to stand up and say we're tired of the violence. We're tired of black folks killing each other," Nagin said.

Nagin finally gets something right. However, he's so totally discredited himself with all the wrong things he's said that it's unlikely anyone's listening.

12 posted on 01/16/2006 2:04:40 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: Ellesu

What is it with black leaders today saying whatever comes into their heads and never being held to account for it? If Pat Robertson would've said that, it would be item 1 on the cbs web site. This will never get that kind of attention.


13 posted on 01/16/2006 2:05:11 PM PST by steel_resolve
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To: freedomlover

14 posted on 01/16/2006 2:05:48 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Jump the shark!! LOL!!!!!


15 posted on 01/16/2006 2:06:31 PM PST by GOPRaleigh (Liberals - who needs 'em.)
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To: GOPRaleigh

He's done.


16 posted on 01/16/2006 2:07:47 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Ellesu
His 15 minutes are now over. The far left will abandon him now.

I believe that he DID have the conversation. No, really. He did hear voices in his head. Now the VRWC will chalk it up to drugs or stress. Next he will describe the visions. THAT is what I am waiting for. Visions of the poor dead (black) people.

17 posted on 01/16/2006 2:07:59 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Howlin

Hopefully.

Remember, failure is a resume enhancer in "Liberal Land".


18 posted on 01/16/2006 2:08:43 PM PST by GOPRaleigh (Liberals - who needs 'em.)
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To: msnimje

My thoughts exactly!


19 posted on 01/16/2006 2:08:48 PM PST by derllak
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To: Ellesu

Here's betting nobody castigates him like they did Robertson......


20 posted on 01/16/2006 2:09:05 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ellesu
Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses celebrating the evil acts of homosexuals and prostitution.
21 posted on 01/16/2006 2:09:30 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Grandchildren are GOD'S way of compensating us for growing old. THANKS GOD!)
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To: samtheman
what an a$$hole

I think that he is too stupid to qualify for that title. The mayor need to be placed under adult supervision.
22 posted on 01/16/2006 2:09:31 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Howlin
Fonzie Jump The Shark game. Play now!
23 posted on 01/16/2006 2:10:19 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: evets


Yep, "Kanye Nagin"...geeeeeeeeeesh another confirmation that community leadership in NOLA is terrible.


24 posted on 01/16/2006 2:10:22 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: dirtboy
God gets blamed for a lot of things that He has nothing to do with.

I really resent Nagin saying that God is not favorable of the Iraq War.
25 posted on 01/16/2006 2:10:56 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: American Quilter
He said some good things but remarks about a "chocolate" city are totally racist and un American. Let's keep in mind that it isn't just about a great big African American love fest. The more black Nagin can keep the city, the more he can win elections.

So then whites are to be kept out of New Orleans so he can maintain power? I thought this type of racial gerrymandering was illegal?

26 posted on 01/16/2006 2:11:12 PM PST by Williams
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To: Ellesu

Channeling his inner Pat Robertson I guess ...


27 posted on 01/16/2006 2:11:42 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Ellesu
He said, 'The thing we need to focus on as a community — WHITE folks I'm talking about — is ourselves.'

Let these words come out of the mouth of any white mayor in the country and see how long he lasts...

28 posted on 01/16/2006 2:12:11 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Ellesu

Ray's playing a dangerous game, blaming God when we all know it was the evil Rove/Cheney hurricane machine that created Katrina....


29 posted on 01/16/2006 2:12:31 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: mariabush

Well he also put words in MLK's mouth to suit his agenda, so it seems to me all religious people and blacks easily could be offended.


30 posted on 01/16/2006 2:12:51 PM PST by Williams
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To: Ellesu

What, is he applying for Pat Robertson's job?


31 posted on 01/16/2006 2:13:37 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Ellesu

I don't think God was mad at anybody. Hurricanes happen. The key is how you respond to a disaster, and that is where God comes in.

The Dems responded badly and universally called upon "the Government" for help.

Some blacks responded well - I saw black churches down there handing out barbecue and searching for people who needed help - while some blacks responded very badly indeed. However, some whites (including lower end teaching staff at the universities) fled the city but were among the first to try to return and rebuild - yet they still do not have homes and nobody cares about them because they aren't politically powerful.

Some whites and blacks (such as the corrupt congressperson who had the National Guard hauling his property out of his house) didn't really have to respond at all because they were so well off.

In short, it was an individual thing, and I honestly think Nagin has gone off the deep end if he believes it was a generalized persecution by God Almighty.


32 posted on 01/16/2006 2:14:14 PM PST by livius
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To: Ellesu

Look for Nagin's new book, soon to hit the stands: God Is My Bus Driver.


33 posted on 01/16/2006 2:15:14 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: dirtboy

Good point. What ARE the chances that the MSM will cover any of Mayor Naggin's ramblings? None, unless they put them into a context of how the mayor has been deranged by White racism.


34 posted on 01/16/2006 2:15:29 PM PST by kjo
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To: Ellesu

Flip Wilson: The devil made me do it.


35 posted on 01/16/2006 2:16:34 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: Cyber Liberty

"Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors" - Bill Clinton, Dec. 16, 1998

Here's a quarter Ray. Buy a computer.


36 posted on 01/16/2006 2:18:07 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Howlin
There is help available to him though-

March 23, 2000 (Atlanta) -- The voices sound real, and they won't go away. From deep within a schizophrenic patient's head, they relentlessly repeat their awful messages, which can urge suicide or even murder. Now help may be on the way: A report in the journal Lancet suggests that an electromagnetic device can zap the voices out of the head without hurting the brain.

I am checking on the visual hallucinations now. Thorazine usually does the trick, but maybe there is a brain-zapper that is more fun to watch the administration thereof. Stay tuned.......

37 posted on 01/16/2006 2:18:22 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Ellesu

Between Abortion & Black-On-Black Crime, Black-Americans can just leave God out of their problems!


38 posted on 01/16/2006 2:18:51 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: All
Knuckleheads in the Hands of an Angry God.”
39 posted on 01/16/2006 2:20:43 PM PST by dighton
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To: dirtboy

Yeah, somehow I don't think Nagin will be subjected to the right-out-of-Orwell Two Minutes Hate that Pat Robertson endured last week.


40 posted on 01/16/2006 2:24:56 PM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: Ellesu

[[Nagin told the crowd that he also asked, "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue?]]

Yes nagin, the whole country would like to know the answer to that. Well, we're waiting????


41 posted on 01/16/2006 2:27:37 PM PST by Buffettfan
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To: Rocky
I still have not found anything really cool that treats visual hallucinations; and maybe it is a little premature to think Ol' Ray is Schizo. It could be that he is just waking up-Some people have hallucinations that are not considered symptoms of mental illness. They may occur when a person is about to fall asleep (hypnogogic hallucinations) or when a person is just waking up (hypnopompic hallucinations).

Anyway, my momma told me not to poke fun at people with mental conditions that are different than mine.

42 posted on 01/16/2006 2:28:18 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Ellesu

I SO CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do we call them blacks, chocolates, or African Americans?


43 posted on 01/16/2006 2:29:36 PM PST by wizr
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To: samtheman

You got that right. Can't schedule a one way trip on a school bus, but can talk to God.....Now that is a real politician.


44 posted on 01/16/2006 2:34:18 PM PST by newcthem (9/11- not terrorists - just troubled youths.)
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To: wizr

Whatever you do, don't call them black jelly beans.


45 posted on 01/16/2006 2:37:13 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Cyber Liberty

No, Newscaster for AlJazzera.

It's either him or Dan Rather.


46 posted on 01/16/2006 2:37:49 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: wizr

Did he move his family back from TX. yet?


47 posted on 01/16/2006 2:38:17 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Ellesu
Ray Nagin knows who is at fault here; and it isn't God.

Bush turned the knob too far to the right and Katrina missed New Orleans on its east side.

Dynamiting the levees afterwards did the trick. - Tom,

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48 posted on 01/16/2006 2:41:13 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Ellesu

how about the other (one of thousands) stupid quote by Ray Nagin

"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans _ the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said. "This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."


49 posted on 01/16/2006 2:43:38 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: American Quilter
Hey Ray, here's your sign:


50 posted on 01/16/2006 2:44:09 PM PST by demkicker
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