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Why radical Islam might defeat the West
Asia Times ^ | july 8, 2003 | Spengler

Posted on 02/04/2006 1:49:53 AM PST by mark_interrupted

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An old article, but still has some interesting ideas.
1 posted on 02/04/2006 1:49:57 AM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: mark_interrupted
Strauss cannot convince Garrett. Indeed, he could not convince himself. Strauss knew perfectly well that philosophy could not refute relativism ("radical historicism"), hence his helplessness before Heidegger's parlour tricks. Strauss gave up on Nietzsche largely because Heidegger offered a sharper critique of rationalism. (Garrett's interpretation of Nietzsche as a philosemite seems idiosyncratic, to say the least, considering that Nietzsche denounced his erstwhile idol Wagner as a Jew after Wagner made peace with Christianity in Parsifal.)

Everytime I see a paragrapth like that I know this is someone with nothing to say and all day to say it.

2 posted on 02/04/2006 1:54:26 AM PST by adamsjas
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To: mark_interrupted

Mmmm...lot's there - to read when not rushed. thanks,


3 posted on 02/04/2006 1:55:23 AM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: mark_interrupted

I do see a war betwen islam and the rest of the world brewing, but the thing about islam is that, they always tend to show their cards way to quick. They tend to lose a lot of battles this way.


4 posted on 02/04/2006 2:02:42 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

True, but remember that Hitler spelled everything out in Mein Kampf and the elites still managed to be taken by surprise. Willful ignorance is very difficult to overcome.


5 posted on 02/04/2006 2:05:26 AM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: vimto

No problem.


6 posted on 02/04/2006 2:05:53 AM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: mark_interrupted

Interesting, but what Arab has done anything noteworthy in the past thousand years?


7 posted on 02/04/2006 2:06:51 AM PST by hershey
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To: mark_interrupted

8 posted on 02/04/2006 2:08:10 AM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: adamsjas

There's quite a lot here to say. Not everything can be reduced to bullet points, and this guy offers a lot to chew on, for those willing to think about it and not have it predigested for them.


9 posted on 02/04/2006 2:12:52 AM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: Spruce

I like your tagline.


10 posted on 02/04/2006 2:14:02 AM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: mark_interrupted

And we beat the Nazis.


11 posted on 02/04/2006 2:14:06 AM PST by nopardons
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To: hershey

Put a couple of airliners in the World Trade Center.


12 posted on 02/04/2006 2:14:56 AM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: hershey

I doesn't matter what they can accomplish. Their plan is simply to breed any other culture out of existence.

Average family size for european couple = 1 or 2 children

Average family size for muslims living in Europe = 5 children



13 posted on 02/04/2006 2:15:48 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: nopardons

AFter a long drawn out fight that destroyed much of Europe.


14 posted on 02/04/2006 2:15:58 AM PST by mark_interrupted
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Which we Americans helped rebuild!

Hitler and the Nazis lost!

Crazy Muslims have been beaten for centuries, with ever venture. Just because they have a lot of children, so that they can use them as walking/flying bombs, doesn't mean that they're going to win.

15 posted on 02/04/2006 2:21:06 AM PST by nopardons
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I think that we will win too. However, it would be a mistake to believe that it will be quick and painless.


16 posted on 02/04/2006 2:22:36 AM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: mark_interrupted

"we are a billion strong. You cannot kill all of us"

Push us too far and something just snaps.... Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki...

I hope I never live to see what the results of the US waging total war would be like, with the firepower we now have ... A billion souls could vanish before the though of restraint would even be entertained.

They should not delude themselves into thinking "They would never do it!"

There is a straw that would break the camel's back.
One atrocity too many...the tipping point.


17 posted on 02/04/2006 2:26:33 AM PST by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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To: mark_interrupted

A fundamental difference is that the muslims are cowards at heart. Except against Israel, the muslims would not mount a unified and widespread front against the west, nor do they necessarily have the capability to do so.

They prefer to resort to acts of terrorism, hoping to one day fell the infidel with one massive blow; i.e. nuke and/or biologics. Barring that, they would gladly opt for the slow but steady acts of terrorism that would drive us to defeat ourselves.

As you said, the ignorance to this threat is willful. If we are defeated, it will be from within.


18 posted on 02/04/2006 2:26:36 AM PST by kenth
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To: mark_interrupted
Nobody, NOBODY, but mordant idiots and damned Dems, ever thought that this would be "quick" OR "easy"!
19 posted on 02/04/2006 2:27:52 AM PST by nopardons
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To: mark_interrupted
Except for a few born-again Christians in the United States, no Western voice is raised in criticism of Islam itself.

This statement becomes more out-dated with each passing day.

20 posted on 02/04/2006 2:29:24 AM PST by kanawa (Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
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