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WA: Pappy Boyington Memorial Blocked at U-Dub
Paradosis | 2/10/06

Posted on 02/10/2006 1:57:56 PM PST by llevrok

We don't need to honor any more rich white males

So says one member of the University of Washington Student Senate.

Gregory Pappy Boyington...graduate of the Univeristy of Washington (went to High School in Tacoma), winner of the medal of honor, shot down 28 enemy aircraft, was a prisoner of war for 20 months, and apparently does not - according to the student senate - deserve a memorial on campus. Apparently we are told that he "is not the type of person we want to honor" and some even went so far as to liken his duty in WW2 to murder. One of the biggest antagonists of the proposal was apparently the leader of the student Democratic Party. How sad.

This issue is particularly interesting to me because I personally knew Pappy Boyington, not so much as a friend, but as a regular visitor to the Chino Air Museum and Air Show. I met him on numerous occassions and thoroughly enjoyed his willingness to tell me stories about his experiences - and I must say it was HEAVEN to this young man who'd rather feel his way around a restored Corsair than hang out at the mall with his contemporaries.

Pappy was famous for once saying: "Just name a hero and I'll prove he's a bum." And he knew this from personal experience. Pappy's childhood wasn't easy and he and his mother had to work VERY hard to get him through school - he was no rich boy and neither did he live off government grants...personally I wonder if those students who "shot this memorial down" could remotely say the same? And he was a real human being who did not hide his faults, particularly with alcohol and marital problems. Like all heros, no one is a "super" hero. While Pappy could work hard, he could "play" hard too and landed himself in trouble from time to time. Here is a more detailed story...from the University of Washington oddly enough.

Also, clearly, the student who made the racist statement never met him because I will tell you that you could not mistake the Sioux in him. And while he did write a best-selling book (best selling authors are a dime a dozen), he was never really a rich man...rather he spent most of his last days wandering through Air Shows reliving the glory days, never in any grand luxury that I saw. He seemed a very nice man, who despite his personal problems did some extraordinary things to help defend freedom and defeat tyranny and injustice.

But, have our Washington youth revised history so much as this? To compare Boyington (or for that matter any of our WW2 vets) to murderers? What are these kids being taught today? They don't deserve those 20 months Pappy spent being tortured and beaten in a Japanese prison camp...they don't deserve any of what our grandfathers and grandmothers sacrificed to free Europe and the Pacific. Is it perhaps because those precious people are soon to be gone that we feel free to engage in leftist amnesia? I'm angry about this...how dare these snot nose, hemp-wearing, pot smoking, drum beating, dreadlock wearing, "gee when is the financial aid check going to arrive", brat kids diss Pappy Boyington?

Maybe REAL rich white guys ought to be offended (like Bill Gates and Paul Allen) and stop donating money to the UW and then the Student Senators will find they don't have the time to be in the student senate because they need to get themselves real jobs.

If any WW2 vets read this blog, please accept my apology on behalf of the University of Washington - and particularly thier ignorant student senate. We remember what you all have done. My kids will remember too.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: ace; boyington; hero; highereducation; idiotlefties; leftismoncampus; marines; pappyboyington; usmc; veterans; wwii
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To: 91B
He said it didn’t make sense to not acknowledge why he was awarded the Medal of Honor.

yeah. Like he spent his youth in student senate meetings to earn the CMoH!

81 posted on 02/10/2006 3:10:08 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: llevrok

Just a note on something that hasn't been mentioned yet - Boyington was one of the Flying Tigers, and thus one of the first Americans to enter World War 2.


82 posted on 02/10/2006 3:13:08 PM PST by TexasBarak (I don't know about you folks, but I aim to misbehave.)
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To: llevrok
I once met a former Flying Tiger who told me Pappy was not well liked but was a really great pilot.

Whatever, he deserves our appreciation an honor for what he did.

83 posted on 02/10/2006 3:13:12 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog; TexasBarak
I once met a former Flying Tiger who told me Pappy was not well liked but was a really great pilot.

I did not know he was a Tiger. The perfect outfit for a wild hair like Boyington.

Gen Chenault was military a genuis, IMHO.

84 posted on 02/10/2006 3:17:51 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: llevrok
We are poor little lambs, that have lost our way....baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa
85 posted on 02/10/2006 3:36:25 PM PST by DocRock
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To: DocRock

This is what happens when American History
is no longer taught as a mandatory subject
high school/college, or even offered in the
battery of subjects
Hoppinjohn


86 posted on 02/10/2006 4:30:17 PM PST by hoppin john
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To: barj
"I met him a few times at El Toro. While he frequently had too much to drink on those occasions, he was a great guy. Definitely a drinking problem, though. Miss him."

I met Pappy Boyington at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting in late 1962 at San Rafael CA. He gave his first name as "Greg." He and I talked a lot about drinking, WWII, and the Marines. I was lucky enough to sober up and move on. On March 15 this year I will be dry for 43 years straight.

Time passes, and the WWII vets time passes like a chronological avalanche.

The commie scum, pansy, radical feminist, and stupid, cowardly, Rat's time is also running out.

What's going to be so fun to watch is that the college punks and their favorite degenerate professors are going to meet a fate that is ferocious, final, and deeply satisfying in a blood soaked way.

I will probably be here when it does. I will enjoy watching the destruction of those at the UW as well as the college where my daughter teaches in Oregon. It will be on TV because it will be in the streets as well as on campus.
87 posted on 02/10/2006 4:35:13 PM PST by doxteve
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To: llevrok

I met Pappy Boyington once back in 1980 at an airshow down in Florida. Great guy! Personally I'd rather not have the Colonel's named dirtied by having it associated with a dirty little commie school like U Dub!


88 posted on 02/10/2006 4:46:15 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: llevrok

Medal of Honor Citation
BOYINGTON, GREGORY

Rank and organization: Major, U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, Marine Squadron 214. Place and date: Central Solomons area, from 12 September 1943 to 3 January 1944. Entered service at: Washington. Born: 4 December 1912, Coeur D'Alene, Idaho. Other Navy award: Navy Cross. Citation: For extraordinary heroism and valiant devotion to duty as commanding officer of Marine Fighting Squadron 214 in action against enemy Japanese forces in the Central Solomons area from 12 September 1943 to 3 January 1944. Consistently outnumbered throughout successive hazardous flights over heavily defended hostile territory, Maj. Boyington struck at the enemy with daring and courageous persistence, leading his squadron into combat with devastating results to Japanese shipping, shore installations, and aerial forces. Resolute in his efforts to inflict crippling damage on the enemy, Maj. Boyington led a formation of 24 fighters over Kahili on 17 October and, persistently circling the airdrome where 60 hostile aircraft were grounded, boldly challenged the Japanese to send up planes. Under his brilliant command, our fighters shot down 20 enemy craft in the ensuing action without the loss of a single ship. A superb airman and determined fighter against overwhelming odds, Maj. Boyington personally destroyed 26 of the many Japanese planes shot down by his squadron and, by his forceful leadership, developed the combat readiness in his command which was a distinctive factor in the Allied aerial achievements in this vitally strategic area


89 posted on 02/10/2006 4:47:55 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: llevrok

I drove through UW just today and thought nothing nice to myself.


90 posted on 02/10/2006 4:51:07 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Women were put on Earth to look hot. Men are here to be stupid about it.)
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21

It just so happens I came across Pappy's autographed picture the other day. Something that needs saved for the kids.

Semper Fi


91 posted on 02/10/2006 5:25:47 PM PST by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: 91B
Jill Edwards said she didn’t’ believe a member of the Marine Corps was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to produce.

Someone tell this moronic strumpet that without Col Boyington and others like him it's possible that the very place she sits could now be a wasteland caused by the Japanese fighting the Germans over the territory.

92 posted on 02/10/2006 6:14:18 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: 31M20RedDevil
what kind of condition was he in when he was freed from that camp?Was he a pilot also?

Yes! He was a B-29 pilot. Shot down over Tokyo. As I understand it, and he wouldn't talk much about it, they (he) were beaten quite badly by the Japs. He had scars on his head and back from the beatings. He lost a lot of weight as far as I could surmize. Here is a photo of POW's at the Omori POW camp upon learning of the end of the war:(From Hap Halloran)

93 posted on 02/10/2006 6:27:41 PM PST by Road Warrior 04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: IGOTMINE

Poor Ashley is as ugly on the outside as she is on the inside. Maybe she'll grow up to be a Rachel Corrie and try to stop a bulldozer. What a disgrace to the U.W.


94 posted on 02/10/2006 6:55:05 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: IGOTMINE

Poor Ashley is as ugly on the outside as she is on the inside. Maybe she'll grow up to be a Rachel Corrie and try to stop a bulldozer. What a disgrace to the U.W.


95 posted on 02/10/2006 6:56:17 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: llevrok
The infamous , Student Senate minutes, featuring all the good little Marxists (along with a brave American or two). See pages 5 thru 8.

The ignorance of the arrogant...

96 posted on 02/10/2006 7:30:44 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: wolfgang13

Got my vote. As far as I am concerned, the sooner we start, the better.


97 posted on 02/10/2006 7:40:34 PM PST by sport
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

She would not be here.Her parents would have been either a lampshade or a bar of soap.


98 posted on 02/10/2006 8:34:43 PM PST by sport
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To: Bigh4u2
Thanks for the link!

I think that you should all take notice of the true reason why these self-consumed, arrogant, pinheads needed to fast-track this proposal into oblivion - you just need to read on to the really important stuff:

Magnus Gordon encouraged senators and their constituents to come to the HUB crawl for go-cart racing and a poetry slam on February the 16th.

Hala Dillsi noted that the GBLTC is having auditions for the drag show this week.
Selma Dillsi said APS is having its annual Human Rights Film Fest on February 15th - 19th.

Jill Edwards noted that Honors Croquet League is holding a match this Saturday.

Ashley Miller said this Thursday during noon passing periods groups would be playing the Privilidge (sic) Game in front of the HUB.

It was noted that tickets for the Vagina Monologues are currently available in the HUB ticket office.

Jon Lee said Innocence Project Northwest is having a screening at the Burke Museum regarding the death penalty.


Now who has time to honor true American Heroes when you can be sleeping through another stirring rendition of the Vagina Monologues?
99 posted on 02/10/2006 9:22:46 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: sionnsar

Contact Vice-President Ashley Miller at asuwvp@u.washington.edu


Maybe you can PING the WA list with her contact info.

I am so completely PISSED by this.

I can tell you where my sons WON'T be going to college!


100 posted on 02/11/2006 7:55:48 AM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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