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Which one is "God's Party?" The "God card" misplayed?
Townhall ^ | 2/14/2006 | Patrick Hynes

Posted on 02/14/2006 7:29:25 AM PST by dson7_ck1249

In a recent USA Today op-ed, Tom Krattenmaker argues that “playing the God card” has backfired on President George W. Bush. The president’s favorability has fallen through the floor, Krattenmaker argues. And surely God would never side with unpopular presidents. “The God’s-on-our-side rhetoric is looking even less credible now, after more than a year of frequently bad news for the president and his administration,” he writes....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushandgod; christianity; conservative; democrats; evangelical; faith; jesus; politics; religion; republicans
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What I don't understand is why politicians insist upon invoking the name of Christ, or of God, just for the sake of political gain. Is there nothing sacred? Where are people getting this indisputable evidence that Christ is in a political party? There are things that both parties get right, and there are things that both parties get wrong. As far as I'm concerned, being a Christian does not pigeon-hole you into a certain party, because there's plenty to dislike in each. Being a Christian conservative is tough in a two-party system, because you can't get too comfortable with any one party. Don't put the faith that should rest on Christ on a political party, or pin it on the next election cycle.
1 posted on 02/14/2006 7:29:28 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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To: dson7_ck1249

God is not a Republican.


But Satan is sure as hell a Democrat.


2 posted on 02/14/2006 7:31:52 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Where did they get those ref's, the WWE?)
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To: trubluolyguy

hahahah.


3 posted on 02/14/2006 7:33:51 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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And surely God would never side with unpopular presidents.

I'm sure God is watching "Desperate Housewives" and "Sex and the City" up in heaven. God is always about being down with the popular culture, don'tcha know...

5 posted on 02/14/2006 7:44:21 AM PST by StrictTime
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To: TonyRo76

HI BROTHER!

SATAN THE FIRST LIBERAL:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/904024/posts

5 SOLAS!


6 posted on 02/14/2006 7:45:35 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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I don't think GWB 'plays the God card'. He lives his faith and it comes through loud and clear. People who have no passing acquaintance with faith are the ones playing the 'God card'.
7 posted on 02/14/2006 7:45:48 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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I don't think GWB 'plays the God card'. He lives his faith and it comes through loud and clear. People who have no passing acquaintance with faith are the ones playing the 'God card'.
8 posted on 02/14/2006 7:46:39 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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Sorry about the double post. Sometimes the comment doesn't post and when you go back to post it, it double posts.


9 posted on 02/14/2006 7:47:53 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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Do you believe that the hand of God was on the 2000 election? Imagine how different the world would be today with Al Gore as president at that time. I believe that the Lord absolutely has George Bush in the place that He wants him to be. The Lord has plans for each and every one of His creations and to recognize that is not necassarily being political. Some do invoke the name of God for their own personal glory. Hillary comes to mind when right after the 2004 election she gave a speech in which god was used about every fifth word. The reality is that Christ would have been apolitical. But our politicians (human beings) must woork within the framework that has been established. George Bush is a good and faithful servant of the Lord and the more influence people such as he have, the more Satan will use others to knock him down. There is a reason that there is such pure hatred by the liberals towrds Bush and to not understand that this is actually spiritual warfare is very dangerous.


10 posted on 02/14/2006 7:51:30 AM PST by AZConcervative
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Get a clue!!!!

I have never once heard GWB claim that he had a corner on God. His CLAIMS are that he is a born again Christian. He has never claimed that he speaks for God. Or that God has told him to do this or that. Or that God has annointed him. He has claimed that he spends time in prayer, SEAKING to do the right thing. And SEAKING to do Gods will.

The label of God being for one party or the other is PRIMARILY a MSM fabrication. Though those of us who truely follow Christ feel that the Republican party, and the people in it, is the one that more closely adheres to Gods principals and laws. There is a difference, AND I MEAN A HUGE DIFFERENCE, between people associating a person or party to being more inline with their God, than someone claiming that their God is inline with their party.

One view tries to align man to God, the other God to man.

Quit drinking the MSM Koolaid. Diseminate information for yourself. And discern the information for yourself. Don't allow someone else mold your opinion to theirs.

FR is a great place to balance info from the outside world. But its not the end all of all discussions. But TRUTH is TRUTH, all the time. Its not relative, and its not only when it serves our view. Seek out the TRUTH.

11 posted on 02/14/2006 7:52:21 AM PST by mountn man (Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic.)
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They cannot call Republicans “theocrats” for trying to save Terri Schiavo while they also claim John the Baptist endorsed their welfare state when he said, “He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none …” (Luke 3:11).
There is no record of John the Baptist having enforced his recommendation by telling a soldier to take the second coat from the person with two, and give it to the one with none.

That process, which is what the Democrats promote, actually precludes private charity. First by giving the glory not to God but to the government for clothing the poor. And second by assuring that the non-poor will not trouble to earn the money for a second coat since they know that the government would just take it away anyhow.


12 posted on 02/14/2006 8:02:02 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: StrictTime

that was the article's sarcastic remark, not mine. but it's not meant to be taken seriously. obviously pointing fun at the sentiment that you are mocking as well.


13 posted on 02/14/2006 8:06:06 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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To: originalbuckeye

Agreed. I don't think he plays the God card either. And I think that it is those that do not know true faith that play God as a political tool...


14 posted on 02/14/2006 8:07:07 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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To: AZConcervative

I believe that the hand of God is present everywhere. His ways are not our ways, and He is sovereign. So I would agree that His will was done, but at the same time, I wouldn't go as far as to say that God is apolitical..that would mean he doesn't care about how things are done in the realm of government or all things political. I think that there is something that Christianity has to say in the public square, I just hesitate to equate the Christian message with the Republican one.


15 posted on 02/14/2006 8:08:38 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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I saw a couple of incredibly offensive billboards last year in my city (a very reliable red state!) from a group called "Grassroots Democrats". One said "Jesus helps the poor. So do Democrats." I do not remember what the other one said but was in the same vein. Both were placed on a very heavily travelled street across the street from the courthouse, jail, and lower-income neighborhoods. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't imagine the GOP doing something like this!!


16 posted on 02/14/2006 8:09:29 AM PST by philled
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"The God’s-on-our-side rhetoric is looking even less credible now..."



George Bush never said that.


17 posted on 02/14/2006 8:10:34 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: mountn man

I have a clue bud. Precisely because FR is a place disseminate information/opinion from other places, I posted the article in hopes that it would spark discussion and thought. I think the article, in its entirety (found at Townhall.com) makes some excellent, thought-provoking points.
No one is claiming (least of all me) that George Bush makes the claim that he has "a corner on God" or that "God has anointed him" etc. I think you misread my post, and didn't actually read the whole article.
No one is molding my opinion to be theirs, I'm just reading things that I find interesting and posting them to see what others think. Don't conflate an article I post with my personal views (although even the article didn't propagate the several claims you made at the outset of your post)


18 posted on 02/14/2006 8:11:25 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

good point. yet another example (I think the article's author would agree) of misquoted Scripture or Scripture's true message distorted to conform to a certain political ideology.


19 posted on 02/14/2006 8:12:27 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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To: philled

that is precisely the point of the article.


20 posted on 02/14/2006 8:13:07 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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