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New York State Attorney General Candidate Pirro: "I Own Guns"
wroctv.com ^ | 2/14/2006 | NA

Posted on 02/20/2006 11:20:31 AM PST by neverdem

State attorney general candidate Jeanine Pirro has made a surprising admission.

The former Westchester County district attorney told the state's Conservative Party leadership that she owns three guns. Pirro says she believes in tough gun control laws, but doesn't want to take the rights away of gun holders who are legal. Pirro says her main goal has been to keep illegal guns out of circulation, not curtail legal gun ownership.

At a Monday meeting in Albany, the GOP candidate told Conservatives, "I have done everything I can to get them off the street, to make them accountable, to increase penalties for those who have and traffic in illegal guns." Pirro had been a candidate for the GOP's Senate nomination to challenge Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election bid this year.

Pirro quit that race in December in the face of fundraising problems and a lack of support.

(Albany-RNS)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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1 posted on 02/20/2006 11:20:32 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Pirro says her main goal has been to keep illegal guns out of circulation, not curtail legal gun ownership.

What is an "illegal gun". Probably something like this:

Illegal Gun === yours

Legal Gun === hers.

Typical elitist gun grabber. Just like Fienstein, Schummer (who seems to like shooting "illegal guns".) the Bradys, etc. etc.

2 posted on 02/20/2006 11:24:05 AM PST by El Gato
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To: neverdem

Not clear to me what an "illegal gun" is. Do you know? Maybe there are gun owners who have lost the right to legally own a gun because of a felony conviction, but to say a gun is illegal in and of its own right is just wrong. The Second Amendment is quite clear, except to those who have a strong desire to get around its plain meaning.


3 posted on 02/20/2006 11:25:15 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: El Gato

Well said.


4 posted on 02/20/2006 11:25:32 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: El Gato

You can have all the guns you want, no matter what the laws are, if you're rich and powerful enough.


5 posted on 02/20/2006 11:25:39 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem

Gun control laws will only effect law-abiding citizens. People with something to lose will think twice before they violate the law. Criminals who utilize guns don't care. A person who will participate in criminal activity that already carries severe sentences isn't going to be deterred by a gun control law.


6 posted on 02/20/2006 11:27:11 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: neverdem

the state's Conservative Party leadership that she owns three guns.

Mental note: Don't attempt to rob/burgle her, I may be shot.


7 posted on 02/20/2006 11:27:39 AM PST by chainsaw ( ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - H. Clinton))
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To: neverdem

What's next? Giuliani appearing on Times Square with a pair of six-shooters and a Right to Life button on his shirt?


8 posted on 02/20/2006 11:29:36 AM PST by jla (Urge Mike Pence to run for POTUS in '08: www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm)
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To: RKV

The terminology should be changed to illegal ownership of handguns.

Only cases I would consider are:

1) Convicted of felony (we take away voting rights so this is consistant)

2) Immigrants

3) Minors without parental consent and supervision


9 posted on 02/20/2006 11:30:19 AM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: popdonnelly
Gun control laws will only effect law-abiding citizens. Criminals who utilize guns don't care.

Good point. So good, in fact, I just came up with a new bumper sticker: "When Guns Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Guns" ;-)

10 posted on 02/20/2006 11:32:50 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: misterrob
(we take away voting rights so this is consistant)

46 states give them back after the felon has served his time.

11 posted on 02/20/2006 11:34:46 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: neverdem
She "...doesn't want to take the rights away of gun holders who are legal."

Well neither does Sarah Brady.

All hinges on your definition of "legal" though, doesn't it?

Somehow I don't think her definition and mine are much alike.

12 posted on 02/20/2006 11:36:21 AM PST by Redbob (I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than ride in a car with Teddy Kennedy!)
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To: neverdem
The former Westchester County district attorney told the state's Conservative Party leadership that she owns three guns.

Why would anyone need three salad shooter guns?

13 posted on 02/20/2006 11:38:01 AM PST by RJL
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To: ozzymandus

Your not referring to people like Sean Penn are you![just joking]


14 posted on 02/20/2006 11:39:25 AM PST by xarmydog
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To: misterrob
Convicted of felony (we take away voting rights so this is consistant)

Gun rights are actually more important than voting rights.

The only way taking rights away for felony would be acceptable is if it was part of the felon's sentence from the beginning. But even then, it really wouldn't make much sense. If he can't be trusted to exercise the rights of people in society, then he shouldn't be in society. Release from jail should be an indication that he is fit to rejoin society.

But regardless, if they do decide to make it illegal for felons, no one should have to prove beforehand that he's not a felon before he can purchase a weapon. To require people to prove that they don't belong in prison before they can exercise their rights, is to essentially extend the prison walls around the entire society.

15 posted on 02/20/2006 11:41:40 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: neverdem

And Schumer has a CC permit.


16 posted on 02/20/2006 11:42:35 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: neverdem

Sounds suspiciously like Gov Pataki (aka the weasel) when he was running against Cuomo. That tune didn't last long after he was elected.


17 posted on 02/20/2006 11:46:10 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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To: inquest

I disagree. By saying no voting rights we are not allowing someone to participate in how they are to be governed. I say they are equal.

If you buy a gun then you are supposed to register it. Registering a gun as a felon earns you a trip back to the slam. Now, I could see making that part of a sentence for violent crime vs white collar.


18 posted on 02/20/2006 11:46:39 AM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: RKV
Not clear to me what an "illegal gun" is. Do you know?

Yeah, the owners complied with un-Constitutional state and local paperwork schemes and fees.

19 posted on 02/20/2006 11:47:42 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: misterrob
By saying no voting rights we are not allowing someone to participate in how they are to be governed.

And by saying no gun rights you can't defend your property, your dignity, and your life. Your one vote, by contrast, isn't likely to have much of an impact on your life.

If you buy a gun then you are supposed to register it.

And that indeed is the problem. It's none of the government's damn business who's armed and who isn't. It should assume that everyone is, and act accordingly.

20 posted on 02/20/2006 11:54:07 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It sometimes helps to state the obvious.


21 posted on 02/20/2006 11:55:03 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: RKV
Yeah, the owners complied with un-Constitutional state and local paperwork schemes and fees.

Drat, that was the definition of a legal gun. The meaning of an illegal gun is that the owner failed to comply with un-Constitutional state and local paperwork schemes and fees.

22 posted on 02/20/2006 11:57:34 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

That's a complete non-answer.


23 posted on 02/20/2006 11:59:06 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("What does a guy have to do to get fired around here?" - Darryl Rogers, former Lions Coach)
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To: ncountylee

"And Schumer has a CC permit."

If someone could get a copy of that permit and post it. Wouldn't that be a interesting?

Is this a public document?


24 posted on 02/20/2006 11:59:45 AM PST by HannagansBride
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To: misterrob
If you buy a gun then you are supposed to register it. Only in some states and they are all blue states.
25 posted on 02/20/2006 12:00:45 PM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: Dan from Michigan
That's a complete non-answer.

That's desparate pandering for the Conservative endorsement.

26 posted on 02/20/2006 12:02:01 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: inquest

You cannot prioritize rights. Guns more important than speech? Voting, Freedon from unreasonable search and seizure, due process?


27 posted on 02/20/2006 12:02:01 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: HannagansBride
Is this a public document?

Doubt it's public.

28 posted on 02/20/2006 12:03:05 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: neverdem
Pirro says she believes in tough gun control laws, but doesn't want to take the rights away of gun holders who are legal.

She's talking out of both sides of her mouth. She's trying to have it both ways, and you can't.

29 posted on 02/20/2006 12:04:25 PM PST by shekkian
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To: misterrob
Voting was never part of the BOR. It's not an inalienable right, like the others. And for good reason: the other parts of the BOR are all about various rights of the people to be left alone and unharassed. Voting is about being able to control other people, and hence it's more than just a freedom; it's a power to be wielded. It's appropriate that that power be subject to some restrictions.
30 posted on 02/20/2006 12:09:05 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: neverdem

Jeanine Pirro apparently belongs to the "self-defense for me, but not for thee" wing of the Republican Party. Just like Feinswine does belongs to the "self-defense for me, but not for thee" wing of the DemocRAT Party.


31 posted on 02/20/2006 12:10:04 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: El Gato
What is an "illegal gun". Probably something like this:
Illegal Gun === yours
Legal Gun === hers.
Typical elitist gun grabber. Just like Fienstein, Schummer (who seems to like shooting "illegal guns".) the Bradys, etc. etc.

I suspect you're right.

32 posted on 02/20/2006 12:11:27 PM PST by from occupied ga (Peace through superior firepower)
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To: inquest

But the structure of government we live under calls for each person to have the right to participate in the political process and be free from harassment and interference on who they choose to vote for. The representatives are elected by the people to produce a republic type of government. Why do you think the whole "Taxation without representation" issue was so huge?


33 posted on 02/20/2006 12:16:20 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: misterrob
Why do you think the whole "Taxation without representation" issue was so huge?

Because an entire continent was being shut out of the process. Voting was regarded (properly) by the founders the same way the second amendment is regarded (disingenuously) by modern liberals: as a collective right, rather than an individual right.

34 posted on 02/20/2006 12:21:21 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: inquest

collective right? Hmmmm, sounds fishey to me but perhaps that was the logic used by racist crackers in the South to deny blacks the ability to vote.


35 posted on 02/20/2006 12:22:54 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: misterrob
No, the logic they used was the claim that blacks were less than fully human. Same logic they used to deny guns to them.
36 posted on 02/20/2006 1:36:24 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: neverdem

Every citizen in the US should be forced to watch PENN &T ELLER'S show on Gun control. I have never seen the debate illustrated so well with such wonderful historical perspecive and funny to boot! Anyone who for gun control after watching this show would be a fool. If you ever have a chance to watch it, DO!


37 posted on 02/20/2006 1:45:26 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: neverdem

Say Hello to Attorney General Cuomo.

I can't figure out why anybody ever thought this woman would be a good candidate. I've never seen anyone so tone-def in my life.


38 posted on 02/20/2006 1:47:05 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Beckwith; misterrob; neverdem; inquest

In NY State, you must APPLY FOR PERMISSION to merely OWN a handgun. The same law applies to shotguns and rifle as well in NYC.


39 posted on 02/20/2006 1:52:58 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Hey Dan, good to see you're still around.


40 posted on 02/20/2006 1:53:38 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: zbigreddogz
I can't figure out why anybody ever thought this woman would be a good candidate.

RINOs too smart by half pandering for the female vote?

41 posted on 02/20/2006 2:45:21 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: popdonnelly

For sure - didn't mean to give you a hard time.


42 posted on 02/20/2006 3:03:51 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: Clemenza
I'm still around occasionally - Just haven't had the time like I used to.
43 posted on 02/20/2006 3:08:38 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("What does a guy have to do to get fired around here?" - Darryl Rogers, former Lions Coach)
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To: Clemenza
In NY State, you must APPLY FOR PERMISSION to merely OWN a handgun

Same in Ilinois.

Pass the back ground investigation, pay the fee and then you may buy one. Unless you are a cop you may not carry it concealed under any circumstances.

44 posted on 02/20/2006 3:43:23 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Well, strapping a .45 on your hip will likely keep people on their side of the street.

Sometimes it's good to let other's know where you stand.....


45 posted on 02/20/2006 3:45:39 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: Graybeard58

I lived in Chicago for two years. I know all about FOID. I also know that I will never live in, nor spend money, in Morton Grove or Oak Park.


46 posted on 02/20/2006 3:49:00 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: misterrob

A few states have open carry,I believe Virginia is one, though I might be wrong. Do you know which states have open carry?


47 posted on 02/20/2006 3:56:07 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: neverdem

I don't know.

I'm not the kind of person that has any objection to moderates, especially in deep blue states, it's not her positions I mind, even if I don't agree, it's her obvious personality problems and poor strategy and organization I object to.


48 posted on 02/20/2006 4:03:02 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Clemenza

I've never been in Morton Grove or Oak Park, so it's not likely I'll spend any money there. I live in central Illinois.

Central and southern Illinois are different worlds from Chicago and suberbs. Unfortunately we are governed by the same politicians that they are because they have the numbers and they are mostly democrats.

It's about the same in most states that have large cities, I hear the same thing from New Yorkers who do not live in NYC and Californians who do not live in their large cities.

The "Gimme something for nothing crowd" seems to gravitate to the cities in large numbers.


49 posted on 02/20/2006 4:04:50 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Michigan, "a blue state," has open carry. No laws forbid it, the open carrying of a pistol or other firearm, without unlawful intent and without brandishing, outside of a vehicle is legal.


50 posted on 02/20/2006 4:11:23 PM PST by Simo Hayha (An eduction is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend against harm.)
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