Neoconservatives: The new hippies

Daily Colonial ^ | Wednesday, February 22 2006 | Danny Kampf

[x5452]

I think iraq was a good idea from the perspective of National Security, however if the goal is instituting democracy throughout the region using military force that's going to be very expensive; very incompatible with small government low taxes. It'd be easier to use nukes and simply resettle.

[rarestia]

Paleoconservative, I like that. That's definitely applicable. Less government, more guns... most excellence!

[91B]

Home run post.

[x5452]

If its just about killing folks why not roll out neutron bombs, hit every city that flinches until the mosques are all converted to churches?

[jpsb]

While I am not hopeful about the eventual out come of things in Iraq, I not see the the usa has any choice but to try to bring about a stable secular democracy in Iraq. The entire area is a mess and if we are not careful the middleeast could give birth to an Islamic super state "Nation of Islam" and then we would really be in for it. So we'd better stay the course in Iraq and hope like hell we can sucessfully build a secular democratic Iraq.

[91B]

One problem: Pakistan might go radical and turn some of their nukes over to Al Qaeda if we nuke the holy cities of Islam. That's why talk by others on this thread of attacking Saudi Arabia, where the Muslim holy cities are, is so foolish. There are over a billion Muslims and I don't want to end up in a fight with all of them.

[dljordan]

Amen!

[x5452]

(If only we could find some reason to pit them and hindus definitvly at odds...)

[dljordan]

"Neoconservative started back in the late 60s in New York."

Don't forget Chicago and Strauss.

[91B]

If we have proof that Pakistan provides AQ with WMD then we are in position to attack from Afghanistan. If Iran gets (more) nutty we can attack from Iraq and Afghanistan. Attacking Saudi Arabia is a non starter unless we are prepared to fight every moslem worldwide.

[91B]

I wish the Brits would have left India unified. Moslems there are integrated into a secular, democratic society. Pakistan is another Islamic basket case.

[Kelly_2000]

"What a load of Friggin crap, Now we have people here agreeing with flaming Liberals like this goof ball who wrote this nonsense. Anybody who witnessed the hippie movement of the 1960's could never draw the conclusions that this liberal has."

Amen

[Old_Mil]

9/11 proved that you cannot simply wait to be hit.

You do realize of course that had we realized in 1970 when the Ayatollah came to power in Iran that Islam was a rabid political movement at odds with our values and totally banned Muslim immigration, that 9-11 wouldn't have happened?

[ex-snook]

George Washington was the first paleoconservative. "No entangling alliances".

[Dolphy]

The simple truth is that almost every one of these high-profile neo-conservatives can be traced back to a Marxist political philosophy that was popular among the well-educated upper crust of most urban centers in the northeastern U.S. over the last 50 years.

Don't leave out the University of Chicago. Anyway, the first generation of the so called neo-cons did come from the left...I don't think that's true of the next generation.

[Dolphy]

It is hard to find the application of a consistent philosophy in the Bush administration.

That seems to be a fair assessment...he does defy traditional models. He didn't come to the White House with any kind of Wilsonian agenda though and while I have thought he compromised on certain policies to protect his priorities, I'm not sure that's true either. Hard to know, as you say.

I'm happy to celebrate his victories (tax cuts, judicial appointments, aggressive approach to terrorism, etc.) and look to continue rightward in 2008.

[jpsb]

I'm not at all happy with Bush, I voted for him in the last election for one reason, Supreme Court appointments, so I don't regret my vote. I also reluctantly agree with the nation building in Iraq, hope it works failure is not an option.