Neoconservatives: The new hippies

Daily Colonial ^ | Wednesday, February 22 2006 | Danny Kampf

[jb6]

As I've always said, Neoconservatism is not Conservatism.

[Thunder90]

What you say???

[Hill of Tara]

I am proud to call myself a paleoconservative :)

[MJY1288]

What a load of Friggin crap, Now we have people here agreeing with flaming Liberals like this goof ball who wrote this nonsense. Anybody who witnessed the hippie movement of the 1960's could never draw the conclusions that this liberal has.

Not to mention that if this administration was so NeoCon, why isn't Bill Crystal (THE KING OF NEOCONS) serving as the National Security adviser?

[BlackVeil]

You are correct, IMO. Look at this bit:

It inherently rejects both “Fortress America” isolationism and Kissingerian realism in favor of an activist foreign policy of promoting human rights ...

Exactly what I don't like about it. The problem with that, is that such a policy cannot possibly succeed.

[Alberta's Child]

You're absolutely right. They are -- and always have been -- big-government globalists whose silly, utopian world view is an outgrowth of too many years spent in academia and Beltway think tanks.

". . . the dumbest f#cking guy on the planet."
--- General Tommy Franks, on Douglas Feith (former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy)

[Alberta's Child]

. . . why isn't Bill Crystal (THE KING OF NEOCONS) serving as the National Security adviser?

That's simple. He never stood a chance of getting a position in this administration, since he supported John McCain in 2000.

[jb6]

Not just how many of those big wig Neocon brainiacs ever served in the military or how many of their kids ever did. Easy to talk about empire and sending others' sons off when you've never had to do it yourself.

[M203M4]

Ha! It is the spreading of democracy, et al, so long as it serves our strategic interests. This is not difficult to understand. You can either pretend that isolationism is a valid avenue like Buchanan, or you can live in reality and actively bend the world to your advantage. This isn't charity.

[JohnLongIsland]

should i start calling every person on this forum comrade from now on? i'm confused.

[jb6]

I guess Washington and the Founding Fathers were fools in your eyes?

[quantim]

As a liberal, I’d say I agree with that doctrine almost in its entirety. But if that’s the case, why is it that I almost always find myself at odds with the policies of the first neoconservative administration ever: the Bush Administration?

Quit drinking the bong water for a start.

[jb6]

It was George Washington who warned to serve by example and not to bring our form of government by the bayonet. Besides which, as anyone who served day one in the Army knows, page one Soldiers Common Task Manual: America is not a democracy, it is a Representitive Republic.

[M203M4]

How tall do you want that wall?

[Torie]

in favor of an activist foreign policy of promoting human rights and propagating democracy.

We can't have that. This neocon can't pass as a hippie because I don't have enough hair left. But I can pass as one with a sense of morality that does not stop at the nation's shore. The lone superpower to ignore evil abroad is a superpower without moral meaning. Plus the globe is an interconnected place, with foreign viruses easily capable of migrating.

Call me a neocon, call me a liberal, call me what you want. I don't care. All I care about is my conscience.

[bayourant]

Amen. same here. Ronald Reagan would very much approve.

[Alberta's Child]

Absolutely right. And anyone who thinks these morons are "conservative" in any sense of the word might want to harken back to that infamous debate in February 2005 between Howard Dean and prominent neo-conservative Richard Perle . . .

Perle: "Chairman Dean, let me congratulate you on your election as chairman of the Democratic National Committee. The Democrats in their wisdom looked at the condition of the Democratic party and chose a physician to lead them. I say that as a Democrat, as a "Scoop Jackson" Democrat, and I look forward to the day when the Democratic Party will nominate a candidate whose views on national security are such that I can return to voting for Democratic candidates."

Oh, yeah . . . this guy's a real conservative.