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Neoconservatives: The new hippies
Daily Colonial ^ | Wednesday, February 22 2006 | Danny Kampf

Posted on 02/28/2006 8:46:11 PM PST by jb6

Edited on 02/28/2006 11:09:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Being someone of a liberal persuasion, it might come as a surprise that I not only sympathize with neoconservatives, I genuinely agree with much of what they have to say. Unlike traditional conservatism, neoconservative philosophy amounts to more than just “Leave us alone.” It inherently rejects both “Fortress America” isolationism and Kissingerian realism in favor of an activist foreign policy of promoting human rights and propagating democracy.

What liberal could disagree with that?

It’s no coincidence that the two ideologies overlap. Both are grounded in Wilsonian idealism. Moreover, neoconservatism wasn’t initially the product of the right-wing intellectuals, who have since become its standard bearers. Strangely enough, the original neoconservatives were radical leftists.

To be specific, they were Trotskyites.

For those of you unfamiliar with Leon Trotsky, he was one of the chief architects of the Russian Revolution. He was an idealist and a militant. Before the revolution, while he was in prison, Trotsky cultivated his famous theory of permanent revolution: a concept which would later provide the impetus for Soviet imperialism.

An independent thinker (he was originally a leader of the opposition Mensheviks), Trotsky was single handedly responsible for crafting the Red Army into a machine whose purpose was to forcibly spread his idealistic brand of Marxism across the world. Substitute “Marxism” with “democracy” and the leap from Trotskyism to neoconservatism appears remarkably diminutive.

Small as the gap may have been, neoconservatives certainly didn’t make the jump to democracy overnight. It took years of audacious brutality and cynical ideological manipulation by the Stalinist Regime before they were finally disenchanted with communism.

Left in a political vacuum, they eventually gravitated towards realpolitik. This resulted in what Francis Fukuyama calls a “realistic Wilsonianism.” The philosophy essentially boils down to this: the United States is a benign hegemon with the unique ability to create a democratic world order that respects human dignity. Hegemonic as it may be, however, the early neoconservatives believed it was imperative for the United States to act prudently, by avoiding war when possible and cautiously exercising force when not.

As a liberal, I’d say I agree with that doctrine almost in its entirety. But if that’s the case, why is it that I almost always find myself at odds with the policies of the first neoconservative administration ever: the Bush Administration?

Well, the sad fact of the matter is that neoconservatism has become a grotesque caricature of its once great former self. Gone are the days of academic nuance, realpolitik and judicious analysis of international relations. All that remains is its idealism and a throwback to its morphed Trotskyite heritage: the insufferable notion that democracy in and of itself (much like Marxism) has the power to single-handedly cure all the world’s ails.

Neoconservatism for kids – that’s what the Bush Administration is responsible for. They have cheapened their philosophy in order to produce an easily digestible version for the masses. This is more than a little reminiscent of the reductivist logic promulgated by the hippie movement in the ‘60s (when neoconservatism was at its nadir). Replace “All you need is love” with “All you need is democracy” and you essentially have what can only be described as “the new hippies.”

The biggest difference is that, unlike the hippies, the neoconservatives are actually in control of our formal institutions of power. Moreover, they have returned to the Trotskyite militarism of their deep past. What could possibly be scarier than blind idealism coupled with an aggressively militarized foreign policy?

I share President Bush’s idealism. I, too, want to see a democratized world order. In this, I believe that even the neoconservatives of today share far more than they’re willing to admit with their liberal counterparts. But the methods by which the Bush Administration is pursuing its goals are haphazard, ill-informed and overly simplistic.

What a shame it is to have another great political philosophy destroyed by yet another generation of hippies – only this time in jacket and tie.



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1 posted on 02/28/2006 8:46:15 PM PST by jb6
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To: GermanBusiness; Igor M; ausrus; Hill of Tara; Timedrifter; Alex-DV; ValenB4; truemiester; ...

As I've always said, Neoconservatism is not Conservatism.


2 posted on 02/28/2006 8:46:44 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jb6

What you say???


3 posted on 02/28/2006 8:54:01 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: jb6

I am proud to call myself a paleoconservative :)


4 posted on 02/28/2006 8:54:40 PM PST by Hill of Tara
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To: jb6
What a load of Friggin crap, Now we have people here agreeing with flaming Liberals like this goof ball who wrote this nonsense. Anybody who witnessed the hippie movement of the 1960's could never draw the conclusions that this liberal has.

Not to mention that if this administration was so NeoCon, why isn't Bill Crystal (THE KING OF NEOCONS) serving as the National Security adviser?

5 posted on 02/28/2006 8:56:24 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: jb6
You are correct, IMO. Look at this bit:

It inherently rejects both “Fortress America” isolationism and Kissingerian realism in favor of an activist foreign policy of promoting human rights ...

Exactly what I don't like about it. The problem with that, is that such a policy cannot possibly succeed.

6 posted on 02/28/2006 8:57:35 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: jb6
You're absolutely right. They are -- and always have been -- big-government globalists whose silly, utopian world view is an outgrowth of too many years spent in academia and Beltway think tanks.

". . . the dumbest f#cking guy on the planet."
--- General Tommy Franks, on Douglas Feith (former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy)

7 posted on 02/28/2006 8:57:47 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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. . . why isn't Bill Crystal (THE KING OF NEOCONS) serving as the National Security adviser?

That's simple. He never stood a chance of getting a position in this administration, since he supported John McCain in 2000.

8 posted on 02/28/2006 8:59:39 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child

Not just how many of those big wig Neocon brainiacs ever served in the military or how many of their kids ever did. Easy to talk about empire and sending others' sons off when you've never had to do it yourself.


9 posted on 02/28/2006 9:00:18 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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Ha! It is the spreading of democracy, et al, so long as it serves our strategic interests. This is not difficult to understand. You can either pretend that isolationism is a valid avenue like Buchanan, or you can live in reality and actively bend the world to your advantage. This isn't charity.
10 posted on 02/28/2006 9:01:14 PM PST by M203M4
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To: jb6
should i start calling every person on this forum comrade from now on? i'm confused.
12 posted on 02/28/2006 9:02:58 PM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: M203M4

I guess Washington and the Founding Fathers were fools in your eyes?


13 posted on 02/28/2006 9:04:41 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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As a liberal, I’d say I agree with that doctrine almost in its entirety. But if that’s the case, why is it that I almost always find myself at odds with the policies of the first neoconservative administration ever: the Bush Administration?

Quit drinking the bong water for a start.

15 posted on 02/28/2006 9:05:47 PM PST by quantim (Always aligned, never maligned, but sometimes out of phase.)
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To: William Creel

It was George Washington who warned to serve by example and not to bring our form of government by the bayonet. Besides which, as anyone who served day one in the Army knows, page one Soldiers Common Task Manual: America is not a democracy, it is a Representitive Republic.


16 posted on 02/28/2006 9:06:00 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jb6

How tall do you want that wall?

17 posted on 02/28/2006 9:06:16 PM PST by M203M4
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To: jb6
in favor of an activist foreign policy of promoting human rights and propagating democracy.

We can't have that. This neocon can't pass as a hippie because I don't have enough hair left. But I can pass as one with a sense of morality that does not stop at the nation's shore. The lone superpower to ignore evil abroad is a superpower without moral meaning. Plus the globe is an interconnected place, with foreign viruses easily capable of migrating.

Call me a neocon, call me a liberal, call me what you want. I don't care. All I care about is my conscience.

18 posted on 02/28/2006 9:07:00 PM PST by Torie
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Amen. same here. Ronald Reagan would very much approve.


19 posted on 02/28/2006 9:08:36 PM PST by bayourant
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To: jb6
Absolutely right. And anyone who thinks these morons are "conservative" in any sense of the word might want to harken back to that infamous debate in February 2005 between Howard Dean and prominent neo-conservative Richard Perle . . .

Perle: "Chairman Dean, let me congratulate you on your election as chairman of the Democratic National Committee. The Democrats in their wisdom looked at the condition of the Democratic party and chose a physician to lead them. I say that as a Democrat, as a "Scoop Jackson" Democrat, and I look forward to the day when the Democratic Party will nominate a candidate whose views on national security are such that I can return to voting for Democratic candidates."

Oh, yeah . . . this guy's a real conservative.

20 posted on 02/28/2006 9:09:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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