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Homeschooling grows quickly in United States
reuters via cnn ^ | 3-2-06 | none listed

Posted on 03/02/2006 11:45:53 AM PST by LouAvul

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To: Shelayne

Wouldn't work - a group of homeschooling parents would simply join ranks and incorporate as a private school.


161 posted on 03/02/2006 5:05:03 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Indy Pendance
I don't pay $10,000 per year in taxes.

But that's what you expect. So you want the government to subsidize something you cannot or will not pay for yourself.

And that leads to the question, where does that additional $7000+ come from?

Business taxes, federal government, people with higher incomes than you.

If I send my kids to private schools or home school, or my kids are out of school, why is it my responsibility to pay for other kids to go to school?

If I don't have any kids why is it my responsibility to pay for other kids to go to school? Because you draw an indirect benefit from a good school system. Your neighborhood is more desirable and your property value increases.

If you'd have read this thread, you'd have seen, I spent $3000 per year, out of my own money, plus taxes to send my kid to private school.

That is your choice and you are free to make it. But if your state is like mine, your state constitution says that the state will establish and maintain primary and secondary schools. It doesn't say that it will subsidize private schools.

I spent less than half the average for school.

I've no doubt that if you investigated you would find it costs your private school more than what you pay in tuition to keep the school running. Your kids are subsidized by the church, donations, fund raisers, what have you.

The question is, where is the waste going? Aren't you concerned where our tax dollars are being spent?

I can't speak for your school system, but my daughter has spent 9 years in the local school system (Blue Valley in Kansas) and has received an excellent education. She's had outstanding teachers, good facilities, an excellent course of study, and we couldn't be happier. As for waste, it would cost us considerably more to send her to the local private high school than we are paying in taxes.

162 posted on 03/02/2006 5:06:06 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
I haven't heard of any axe-murdering homeschool moms up here, but I understand that that kid-drowning homeschool mom in Texas is getting a new trial.

I was thinking about that case the other day. The press played up the homeschool angle so much, yet only one of the kids was even old enough for school. Plus, it all happened in the summer when school wouldn't have been in session. Homeschooling had nothing to do with it, but that never stopped the press from crying "homeschooling." Their mother was a psychotic killer, and she should be pleading for death.

163 posted on 03/02/2006 5:14:38 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You misread my comments.


164 posted on 03/02/2006 5:21:37 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Alberta's Child

I'm glad - good news.


165 posted on 03/02/2006 5:39:19 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: LouAvul

I think homeschooling is good but sadly it contributes to increased financial strength for public schools. Schools still get the tax dollars but don't spend money on the missing student.

At some point, this will reach a tipping point though. I think it is close.


166 posted on 03/02/2006 6:35:00 PM PST by lonestar67
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To: Trout-Mouth
check out yahoo groups on it.
I'm not to that point yet with my daughter (although at 2 I'm pretty impressed that she can say the whole Lord's prayer start to finish - I recorded it for proof :) )
Robinson Curriculum is pretty awesome - there's a link for it somewhere on this site.
Also I really like Tapestry of Grace. (There's many many more - but those are the two that have really caught my eye) Oh, Bill Bennet has one too.
167 posted on 03/02/2006 6:42:57 PM PST by justche ("You can have peace this second - surrender!" ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Shelayne; Aquinasfan

I thought of that too. The bill was HR 6 and the polititions found out the hard way that homeschoolers were a force to be reckoned with. The fallout was fun to watch.
I suspect that because the homeschool movement was grassroots and nationwide, it didn't really show up on the NEA radar until it was too late for them to do anything about it. By the time the NEA realisd what was going onand tried to stop it, it was too strong. That may be what is going to keep the same attempt from happening again.
Funny thing is, a great many of the homeschoolers I know are much more educated than the teachers in public schools. So much for credentials.


168 posted on 03/02/2006 7:20:25 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: LouAvul
This growth has spawned an estimated $750 million a year market supplying parents with teaching aids and lesson plans to fit every religious and political philosophy.

Gee, a shocking revelation considering that the alternative to this is public education which in these days, totes a tunnel vision towards education worth scrutiny via concern by all.

169 posted on 03/02/2006 7:20:50 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: LouAvul

Could another reason for the growth be not wanting a teacher to seduce your kid? Or the school subject your kids to gay rights propaganda? If I didn't have to work I'd love to home school mine.


170 posted on 03/02/2006 8:01:47 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: 1stFreedom
Very cool. Hey you might have a future MMA fighter on your hands lol.
171 posted on 03/02/2006 8:38:29 PM PST by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: balch3
the only danger I see is what if leftists get into homeschooling in a big way. No telling what kind of subversive brainwashing they'll teach.

Your not big on free speech, are ya?

172 posted on 03/02/2006 8:48:16 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: LouAvul

It's a good thing.


173 posted on 03/02/2006 8:54:25 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

They'll fight back all right. But mainly through the mostly unconstitutional leviathan federal government. We need to hold fast, and put this beast back in it's cage. I couldn't think of a better first step than to withdraw all children from the miserable socialist failure of the "public education" system.


174 posted on 03/02/2006 8:59:48 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Yes Izzy and they will try to tighten regulations to help the children and make it harder to homeschool. I think homeschooling will change the face of education forever and it is a long overdue change. We need to focus more on the learning than maintaining the educational hegemony for teachers unions and liberal professors. I think it is horrible that we have a society where there is no inexpensive way for a poor child to self educate themselves and get credit in the form of degrees for their knowledge.

No one talks about that but like medicine they talk spending more money, student loans, and hanging a nice ball and chain of debt around the already disadvantaged. Why when anyone can pick up a book and study, one doesn't need a teacher to learn if they know how to read and comprehend and are willing to put the work into it. Also the world is full of teachers and is a teacher. I learned more from the people around me and my own explorations than I ever got out of school and some of the lessons I learned in public school I could've done without.

I think this is where homeschooling will be a boom with a generation of children that grow up knowing that learning isn't something you just do at a special time, in a special place, with a special union teacher. Teachers are valuable but the real teachers of value don't just teach children facts but teach them how to comprehend and learn on their own.


175 posted on 03/02/2006 9:15:53 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Perspective is everything.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Ping


176 posted on 03/02/2006 9:23:03 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
By the time they would normally graduate from high school, they have completed two years of college general education requirements.

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My ***NORMAL*** three homeschooled children were in college by the ages of 13, 12, and 13. All were completely finished with their college generals and all 3 levels of calculus by the age of 15. The two younger graduated from college at the age of 18 with B.S. degrees in mathematics. The older of these two just finished a masters degree in math.

The oldest of the three is a nationally and internationally ranked athlete. He chose accounting since it meshed well with his training and travel schedule. At nineteen, only 13 courses shy of a degree, he left for Eastern Europe on a church assignment. He returned recently, at the age of 21, completely fluent in Russian, and has resumed his athletic training and academic studies.

My children are NORMAL. It is academically institutionalized children who are socially and academically delayed.
177 posted on 03/02/2006 9:36:58 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: latina4dubya

yes--and when i talk with "naysayers" about our decision to homeschool, i actually call it "alternative education." the left is so into "alternative lifestyles," they have a hard time arguing "alternative schooling."

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We should talk about homeschooling as the NORMAL and healthy way to raise a child. We should challenge those using government schools and make them explain why they would choose something so inferior for their children. We should express pity that they must resort to institutionalization.

It's time to put the government schoolers on the defensive. Make them do the explaining.


178 posted on 03/02/2006 9:40:11 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Justanobody

Thanks for the ping!

I will have to read this entire thread tomorrow...after I get my kids schooling started, of course. ;o)


179 posted on 03/02/2006 9:43:01 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Beware of the ENEMEDIA!!! What treason have they perpetrated today?)
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To: jan in Colorado

But of course..... ;*)


180 posted on 03/02/2006 9:54:14 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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