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CALIFORNIA: More people now departing state than moving here
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/3/6 | Cicero A. Estrella

Posted on 03/03/2006 7:51:21 AM PST by SmithL

Population trend reversing course for 1st time since '98.

For the first time since 1998, the people who relocated from California to other states outnumbered those who migrated in from other states, according to a report released by the state's Department of Finance on Thursday.

California, which had a population of more than 37 million in 2005, had a net loss of 28,565 people to other states during the fiscal year that ended July 1, according to report estimates.

A department analyst said the loss can't be blamed on a mass exodus similar to one that the state experienced before the dot-com boom of the late 1990s.

Howard Roth, chief economist with the department, said California's housing costs discourage people from other states from moving here.

"The outflow hasn't changed much, but fewer people are coming here," Roth said. "Houses were already unaffordable, but they've become more so in the last two years. It's discouraging people from taking job offers in California."

According to DataQuick, the median price of a house in California was $452,000 in January. In the Bay Area, the median price was $607,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: caleconomy; californiahereigo; exodus; goeastyoungman
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1 posted on 03/03/2006 7:51:25 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Can you imagine what the real numbers are when you remove illegal immigration?


2 posted on 03/03/2006 7:52:06 AM PST by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: SmithL

Given all the Cal. license plates I see everyday, it looks like they are all coming here to Texas.


3 posted on 03/03/2006 7:55:02 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
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To: SmithL

I swear they are all coming to Texas. Everyone is coming to Texas. Suburbs of Dallas especially. A majority in my neighborhood of Frisco are New Yorkers or Californians. THey are shocked that we pledge to the Texas Flag. They are also shocked we have malls and grocery stores, ha.


4 posted on 03/03/2006 7:55:12 AM PST by newconhere
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To: SmithL
This doesn't mean the population of California is actually decreasing. Illegal immigration aside, people do have babies.

However, there is a huge disincentive for residents of other states to move to California, and a huge incentive for Californians to leave.

A Californian who owns a crappy house can sell it, move to another state, and buy a mansion with the cash, and have money left over.

5 posted on 03/03/2006 7:55:27 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: SmithL
For the first time since 1998, the people who relocated from California to other states outnumbered those who migrated in from other states...

Does that include the state of Sonora?
6 posted on 03/03/2006 7:55:54 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SmithL

Red States get redder, Blue States get bluer........


7 posted on 03/03/2006 7:56:47 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: SmithL
My only question is: why is this a surprise?
Cigarette tax.
Real estate taxes.
Political correctness rampant.
Uncontrolled spending

Anyone who can will leave the state as soon as they can. Including me, after a lifetime here...

8 posted on 03/03/2006 7:57:22 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Dog Gone


I am living proof!


9 posted on 03/03/2006 7:57:35 AM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: SmithL

California is a great place to visit.


10 posted on 03/03/2006 7:57:46 AM PST by anton
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To: newconhere

They aren't all going to Dallas. I think most of California now shops at an HEB here in Williamson CO.


11 posted on 03/03/2006 7:58:44 AM PST by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: SmithL

I left in 1981 and I'm never going back to live there again. When I visited a few years back my $500/month efficiency apartment on the beach is now a $250K Condo!

My uncle finally wised up and left after 15 years. Sold his $150K home for $600K and moved to NM. He's loving life.

Sunny Weather = Quality of life? Not to me. ;)


12 posted on 03/03/2006 8:00:25 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: newconhere
I swear they are all coming to Texas.

You will know when they are all settled in by a dramatic increase in frivolous environmental lawsuits.
14 posted on 03/03/2006 8:01:16 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: newconhere

This is funny, that is, the idea that they are surprised you have malls and grocery stores, etc.. I know many people in the main stream media think that anywhere between NY and CA is flyover country. They expect that wild Indians still roam around Minnesota with bows and arrows! Often the morning news programs on the MSM give weather temps for Chicago, and then nothing else westward until Seattle (along the northern tier of states). It is probably the same for the southern part. Mostly the east coast and the pacific coast gets covered.


15 posted on 03/03/2006 8:02:28 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Baynative

Coming back home from a visit to California is like hitting your head against the wall because it feels so good when you stop.


17 posted on 03/03/2006 8:03:00 AM PST by sangoo
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To: Vision
Let the Illegals flow into that cesspool unchecked!

With their "cutting edge" socialist medical policies, open handed cash give aways, runaway tax increases and socialist housing/transportation projects, it won't be long before the state is completely bankrupt.

Then the Hollywood Marxists can put their money where they think everyone else should.

18 posted on 03/03/2006 8:03:37 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Pat Buchanan............A principled pessimist with a pessimistic principal)
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To: SmithL

As long as it's just the conservatives who are moving out, that's good.

I'm thinking that we need a fence, though, to make sure that the liberals don't leave. We need better border security than what we've got.


19 posted on 03/03/2006 8:03:48 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: SmithL
I left shortly after the Rodney-King Riots.

I just turned down a job there.

20 posted on 03/03/2006 8:04:19 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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