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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 5 March 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 5 March 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 03/05/2006 5:16:49 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, March 5th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Michael Brown, former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency; National Weather Service Director David Johnson.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Pace; former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., and former Rep. Jack Kemp, R-N.Y., co-chairmen of the Council on Foreign Relations' task force on U.S. policy toward Russia.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.; Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine; Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; retired Gen. Wesley Clark; comedian Stephen Colbert.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Gen. James Jones, NATO supreme Allied commander; Iraqi Parliament member Adnan Pachachi.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; duncanhunter; edwards2008; facethenation; foxnewssunday; guests; iraq; jackkemp; jamesjones; katrina; lateedition; lineup; lugar; meetthepress; michaelbrown; murtha; nato; peterpace; sunday; susancollins; talkshows; thisweek; wesleyclark
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To: Alas Babylon!

Oh crap, I missed that exquisite Drug War Soldier Johnny Edwards. Bummer.


661 posted on 03/05/2006 4:29:53 PM PST by Whit
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To: Cboldt
Yah, I've toyed with MRC, and other like minded sites, but no one seems to have a day by day, week by week, summary of what was (and was NOT) discussed. This is where I think the real argument lies.

Regardless of us calling them the "dinosaur media" they are still "in charge" of deciding what gets on the news and what gets ignored.  Until we seize that power from them we are meaningless. 

I think a daily thread, with weekly summary, could be a really powerful force for shaping what is and is not considered "newsworthy" today.  I'm having a hard time finding an existing "hook" to begin such a thread from.  I think we're (I'm?) going to have to create it myself.

W.C. Fields once said, "there comes a time in a man's life when he has to seize the bull by the tail and face the situation."

I'm afraid I'm working up to seizing a bull's tail.  Wanna join me?

 

662 posted on 03/05/2006 4:35:22 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

I'll help you think abut it. The idea is a good one.
Legacy media seems to get in a frenzy about one item at a time, almost as a shield against having to face other issues.
The items they choose to focus on are so tangential to the important news that it is hard to remember what they were.

For example, IIRC, the entire week that President Bush was meeting national leaders in South America, the media fetishized on Libby's indictment.


663 posted on 03/05/2006 4:39:16 PM PST by maica (You are being lied to. By elements in the media determined that Iraq must fail. - Ralph Peters)
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To: eeevil conservative

WOW---that sounds great....she does sound like she is doing well.

Thanks for the update...keep letting me know how she is doing...and I will continue to pray for her.


664 posted on 03/05/2006 4:44:35 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw)
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To: maica
For example, IIRC, the entire week that President Bush was meeting national leaders in South America, the media fetishized on Libby's indictment.

That is exactly the kind of stuff I'm thinking of.  That is what I want to gather, on a weekly basis, and use to challenge the MSM and inform the alternate media.

We can do this.  We have the technology. 

We can rebuild him stronger than.. wait, that was the bionic man...

Never mind that part <g>

665 posted on 03/05/2006 4:47:17 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: maica

I looked at tomorrow's schedule on C-span...and I couldn't believe it...but they have John Edwards on there twice tomorrow LIVE with two different speeches..

One at the AIPAC Convention...and then in the afternoon at the Council of Foreign Relations.

The first to discuss Israel...and the second to discuss Russia.

Forgive me, but in 2004, I got the impression that this guy wouldn't have been able to locate those two countries on a MAP....but he is giving speeches about them????

I tell ya, this country is coasting towards DOOM!


666 posted on 03/05/2006 4:48:29 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw)
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To: Phsstpok
Some raw stuff: http://releases.usnewswire.com/

http://www.medialink.com/ puts out VNRs (Video News Releases) on a "paid for" basis. SOme of this is in the nature of "covert propaganda."

Foreign news sources would probably be very good to scan.

Lefties version -> http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0127-01.htm

I wonder what happened to the Alpizar story (guy shot by an air marhsall at Miami); the Erie, PA pizza guy who was killed by a bomb collar; the guy who blew up in Oklahoma, outside a college football game.

OTOH, the Hamdan case will be heard by SCOTUS later this month, Judith Miller has been appearing in the appeal that involves press priviledge and disclosure of impending search to Holy Land Foundation - those items WILL be hot news when they mature.

Here's one: http://www.honestreporting.com/a/Archives.asp

667 posted on 03/05/2006 4:50:52 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Phsstpok

I am pretty sure I know what you want...it is just a matter of the format and the way to get the info, right?

I KNOW I couldn't do a newspaper....I babysit two granddaughters and I am lucky if I can sit down, let alone read a newspaper, or even skim the headlines.

Oftimes, I am driving home from my daughter's house during the network news...can't stand Greta's show...too ONE TOPIC.

Let me think about it...and see what I can commit to as far as something to keep track of....but, I am definitely interested in the project, and helping you.


668 posted on 03/05/2006 4:52:37 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw)
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To: Phsstpok

My 90 year old mother is still actively engaging the dinosaur media. She sent off a blistering email this morning to our local propaganda rag. The Baltimore SUN's entire coverage of THE President's trip to Pakistan was on page 14A, with a black/white photo of playing cricket, not even a little note on page 1 to turn to page 14.

We see the myriad of fabulous photos that are available every day when we check the Day in the Life thread here on FR. So we know that they choose not to show Americans what THE President was doing this week. By hiding this NEWS they insult India and Pakistan, who treated President Bush to State Visits. The SUN is really a filter for those who still want to believe that President Bush is a do-nothing doofus. I guess they were saving front page space for coverage of riots and protests which did not materialize.

These "news" agencies do such a good job of NOT showing President Bush that even Dick Morris went on TV and called the President Lazy!!


669 posted on 03/05/2006 5:05:54 PM PST by maica (You are being lied to. By elements in the media determined that Iraq must fail. - Ralph Peters)
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To: A.Hun; Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Morgan in Denver; Alas Babylon!; ...
These "news" agencies do such a good job of NOT showing...

whatever they don't want to show...

I formally propose that the nucleus of people represented among this distribution list create our own FreeRepublic based "news agency" to accumunlate and dissiminate the REAL news of the day.  I suggest we emphasize two areas:

  1. What is really happening
  2. What the traditional media tries to spoon feed us

Wanna play? 

Please review previous posts on this thread for context.  I'm asking for volunteers to take on either reviewing what happens each day or (more likely) what any individual news source chooses to promote (and what they choose to ignore).

(Shudder) I hereby volunteer to be an initial collection point for this effort.

Your realize, of course, that I am now DOOMED! ?????

670 posted on 03/05/2006 5:17:33 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok
Regardless of us calling them the "dinosaur media" they are still "in charge" of deciding what gets on the news and what gets ignored.

Yep. FR pretty much "reacts" to the stories selected.

Until we seize that power from them we are meaningless.

I think that objective reaction and fleshing out of stories is invaluable, and powerful. I think that for the most part, "what gets on the news" represents a fairly reasonable judgement. That is, I think that reacting to what is "the story of the day" covers most (but not all) of the important issues.

In my opinion, where the media really comes short is in educating the reader as to how things work, in putting the story into an accurate context. Some FR threads do a good job of that.

I think a daily thread, with weekly summary, could be a really powerful force for shaping what is and is not considered "newsworthy" today.

That power to shape won't come out of a FR discussion. It depends on having broadcast and print rights, as well as editorial power of what will be aired and what won't. But as a matter of keeping a personal eye on the ball, I think your idea is great.

W.C. Fields once said, "there comes a time in a man's life when he has to seize the bull by the tail and face the situation."
I'm afraid I'm working up to seizing a bull's tail. Wanna join me?

I think I work better in a "story analysis" mode - ever the critic. My motivation is more to make sense of the story, to get the factual basis for the report, and in most cases, to understand "how things really work." It's an effort with an entirely personal motivation.

As often as not, I'm set off by an assertion of or question by a FReeper:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516559/posts?page=37#37
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1494693/posts?page=16#16
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516791/posts?page=322#322 & preceding post 308
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1224594/posts?page=24#24

At any rate, I don't do very well with assigned work, so y'all have to be content with whatever contributions I feel like making (probably grateful that I don't make more!)

671 posted on 03/05/2006 5:43:33 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: samantha
If I am in charge of these Precincts I can throw out the legal ballots marked for the GOP candidate and bring in tons of ringers/brand new unmarked ballots and punch out or mark the Democrat slot. Voila, voter theft/voter fraud and that is exactly why Richardson and the Dirty Dems there pushed this through. If I recall the Secretary of State is also a Dem, and a mindless,biased,ranter and raver.

Most assuredly they can do that. I'm just saying it's easier to watch over and track paper ballots at the precinct level, then trust Dim software programmers who may be messing with code. Right now, you read a printout or computer screen with the totals and have to trust they are right. A few weeks ago we had a case where the Republican party donation checkoff box on electronic income tax forms was programmed to give Republican refund donations to the Dims and theirs was programmed correctly. Some smart taxpayer figured it out and of course it was an unintentional progamming error. Uh huh, right.

672 posted on 03/05/2006 5:52:00 PM PST by CedarDave (The MainStream Media: Rename as the Old Antique Media as that is their current status)
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To: saveliberty

Yes, he was specifically against Communism, but when he was on the Firing line Program he was always against the liberals on everything. He was always a Gentleman even when in conflict with a less than Gentlemanly Democrat or opponent. That lack of mean spiritedness and ability to debate with decency set the standard for the Conservatives. It is not something that can be duplicated today because of the viciousness of those out of power. Scratching,clawing,insulting,interrupting are how Democrats handle Debate. All the Pubbie has to do is clear his throat or take a breath and the nasty Dem will attack like a mongoose.


673 posted on 03/05/2006 5:54:58 PM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: Phsstpok; Txsleuth; All
Hi guys, just getting back in town after a week of no freeping. Worse punishment I have had in a long time. How was the thread today? What did I miss.
674 posted on 03/05/2006 6:01:37 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: dalight

There are many of us who listen 'on-line' via the Fox feed or one of the stations that host Tony. We have a live thread each day. Tony even freeps with us. I have become an avid listener.


675 posted on 03/05/2006 6:03:13 PM PST by mathluv (Bushbot, Snowflake, Dittohead ---- Bring it on!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Much appreciated MNJ.


676 posted on 03/05/2006 6:07:10 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: Phsstpok

Does Media Research Center still do that?


677 posted on 03/05/2006 6:11:30 PM PST by mathluv (Bushbot, Snowflake, Dittohead ---- Bring it on!!!)
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To: Phsstpok

I just watched War Stories and how Hollywood helped in WWII. What a difference 60 years makes.


678 posted on 03/05/2006 6:18:42 PM PST by mathluv (Bushbot, Snowflake, Dittohead ---- Bring it on!!!)
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To: CedarDave

I hate to disagree with you, but the greater percentage of Dem Poll workers are not very computer literate. Even at this stage of the game they are clueless. Most of the workers are older and the Dems are less likely to catch up computer wise with the rest of Society. I believe that the Computer programs can be made secure, much more than Paper Ballots. I also believe that the Dems have been caught so many times committing fraud, that they have a reputation for it, and there are too many Political Reporters on the Republican side that will make sure that the ballots are properly handled, and that most elections this Fall and in 2008 will be as fraud free as possible. The State of Washington Governor's race was a huge embarrassment for the Dems there. Even the Democrats and Independents smelled a rat. Dems cannot win without fraud, we all know that, and they will be trying their darndest to steal more elections. There will be more scrutiny than ever and in my County for instance, you have to show a legal Photo ID to vote. My Driver's License is a hologram and cannot be duplicated. you can also get just a Florida ID card that cannot be duplicated. Nothing is ever 100 percent foolproof,but this will be a heck of lot better than the even recent past.


679 posted on 03/05/2006 6:20:21 PM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: rodguy911

22 Hours and 59 minutes.


680 posted on 03/05/2006 6:23:03 PM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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