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Clinton vows to block bill criminalizing illegal immigrants
Newsday ^ | March 22, 2006 | BETH FOUHY

Posted on 03/23/2006 5:56:46 AM PST by redlenses

Clinton vows to block bill criminalizing illegal immigrants By BETH FOUHY AP Political Writer March 22, 2006, 2:51 PM EST NEW YORK -- Invoking Biblical themes, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton joined immigration advocates Wednesday to vow and block legislation seeking to criminalize undocumented immigrants. Clinton, a potential 2008 presidential candidate and relative latecomer to the immigration debate, made her remarks as the Senate prepares to take up the matter next week. Clinton renewed her pledge to oppose a bill passed in December by the House that would make unlawful presence in the United States _ currently a civil offense _ a felony. The Senate is set to consider a version of that legislation, as well as several other bills seeking to address the seemingly intractable issue of immigration reform. Surrounded by a multicultural coalition of New York immigration advocates, Clinton blasted the House bill as "mean-spirited" and said it flew in the face of Republicans' stated support for faith and values. "It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures," Clinton said, "because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself."

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To: redlenses
"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures," Clinton said, "because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself."

Apparently her understanding of Scriptures is as confused as her understanding of immigration issues.

21 posted on 03/23/2006 6:12:20 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: NonValueAdded

I'm confused about this whole thing. Doesn't the word ILLEGAL already mean they're criminals? What the heck is going on here?


22 posted on 03/23/2006 6:13:34 AM PST by Explorer24
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To: redlenses

Wow. And here I thought she was going to get on the right side of the immigration issue, just to peel votes away from the probably-pro-illegal Republican nominee in 2008.

Wow. Just wow.


23 posted on 03/23/2006 6:13:44 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: redlenses

Can someone help me? O.K. I know I have only a high school education but would'nt the word 'illegal', which I think means against or contrary to established law, already carry with it the idea of criminality? To do something illegal is to commit a crime. To be 'illegal' is to be a 'law breaker' or 'criminal'. Someone please help this simple minded truck driver.


24 posted on 03/23/2006 6:15:35 AM PST by uptoolate
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To: redlenses
Nobody has ever granted patent in perpetuity and Disney is still making new movies with Mickey Mouse. You just want to steal.

Isn't something that is illegal also criminal, by definition?

Talk about cognitive dissonance.

25 posted on 03/23/2006 6:16:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: redlenses

Hillary has no understanding of the Scriptures.


26 posted on 03/23/2006 6:16:34 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Hillary's own family came in without checking through ICE.

Of course, that was a long time ago, but they had a very large painted wagon complete with underslung chicken coupe.

The law, in the end, means nothing to these people.

27 posted on 03/23/2006 6:18:55 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Borax Queen
Ping!

I know this won't help the bird flu..........but thought you might like to read this.......

*Say no to chikin*

28 posted on 03/23/2006 6:19:33 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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Sorry for the windy post. I am flipping mad...


29 posted on 03/23/2006 6:20:43 AM PST by dubie
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To: muawiyah

"Hillary has no understanding of the Scriptures."

I totally agree.


30 posted on 03/23/2006 6:23:17 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: redlenses

Go right ahead Hillary...oppose a law that the majority of the people in this country support. You might get the illegals vote, but you won't get anyone else's.


31 posted on 03/23/2006 6:24:11 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: uptoolate
Real simple ~ there are "felonies" and "misdemeanors". Being inside the United States in and of itself is not a felony. Failing to properly enter the country is only a misdemeanor.

It has been proposed that this be changed so that any illegal entry will be considered a felony.

32 posted on 03/23/2006 6:25:14 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: redlenses

I wonder how Jesus feels having his name thrown around by the likes of Hillary? And her being the consort of a known rapist.


33 posted on 03/23/2006 6:26:59 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Explorer24
I'm confused about this whole thing. Doesn't the word ILLEGAL already mean they're criminals? What the heck is going on here?

IMHO it is the felony designation that sticks in the boca raton. As a misdemeanor, illegals when caught are eligible for the "catch and release" system of giving them an appearance ticket, patting them on the head, and saying "go forth and vote for the democRATs." A felony arrest means detention prior to deportation although lib judges can ROR them, I suppose, perpetuating "catch and release."

34 posted on 03/23/2006 6:27:05 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("If I were a Cuban, I'd certainly be on a raft," Isane Aparicio Busto)
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To: redlenses
She does not know the 10 commandments much less read a Bible. Lying hipocritic itch.
35 posted on 03/23/2006 6:30:08 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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I guess she's a little confused over that whole Seperation of Church & State thingie...


36 posted on 03/23/2006 6:32:57 AM PST by redlenses
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To: muawiyah

Oh!! I get it!!! Big laws and little laws.

So the 'little' law breakers that invaded our country, stole jets full of people, and ran those jets into 3 buildings and a field, (God bless the victims), those guys had only broken the little laws. It seems to me that these 'little' laws are so small that they get overlooked by the authorities, and the consequences of these 'little' laws are so small that no one takes them seriously.

Good thing I've never taken the Clinton's seriously.


37 posted on 03/23/2006 6:33:03 AM PST by uptoolate
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To: redlenses

To prove that she really wants to control the border.


38 posted on 03/23/2006 6:38:53 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: redlenses

This might help her stay in the Senate, but unless the Republicans nominate someone who is also pro-criminal it will keep her from being president.


39 posted on 03/23/2006 6:39:02 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: uptoolate
Sometimes you'll get someone who accidentally gets off a plane inside the US on its way from one point in Canada to another, and you really don't want to give them a criminal record ~ just get them on the next flight OUT.

I understand you can have problems along the border between Lake Superior and Vancouver as well, and in Maine.

Awful lot of the law concerning entry into the US was written to accommodate local feelings where an international boundary manages to cut through a community with roots far older than the countries on either side.

Unfortunately, in modern times we have to be concerned with really nasty foreigners who want to do us harm. That means the Canadians will have to be kicked around a bit, and so will Americans who live along those border areas.

The Mexicans aren't going to stop trying to get here of course ~ but we have to regularize the process better so they are totally assimilated prior to entry (and if you've been watching Mexican television you've seen that process is well underway).

40 posted on 03/23/2006 6:40:59 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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