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Immigration and the GOP
Is it still the party of Reagan, or of Tom Tancredo?
Wall Street Journal ^
| 3/31/2006
| Review and OUtlook
Posted on 03/31/2006 3:41:14 AM PST by pageonetoo
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And it will make permanent enemies of millions of Hispanics, without doing anything to draw illegals out of the shadows and help them assimilate into the mainstream of American culture and citizenship....
I didn't see too many friendlies in the streets this week!
To: pageonetoo
WSJ just wants cheap labor for the companies, these are the Rockefeller wing of the party.
They disregard or are ignorant that the GOP took control because of the larger social conservative wing of the party.
They feel it's their country club republicans who are the driving force of the GOP,
Next year, they are in for a rude awakening when a democratic controlled congress starts to tax the heck out of them. And the social conservatives don't back this 3% of the population.
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posted on
03/31/2006 3:48:40 AM PST
by
wrathof59
To: pageonetoo
"exclusionary policy that tells millions of new immigrants, and especially Hispanics, that they belong somewhere else?... The illegal criminals who are mexican are NOT NEW IMMIGRANTS ones who respect America and Americans and our laws, they are illegal "immigrants" better known as invaders, so get your blasted facts straight idiots!
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posted on
03/31/2006 3:50:01 AM PST
by
stopem
(Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
To: stopem
...But there have also been costs, and parts of America have borne more than have others. The border states in particular have experienced more crime and social disruption, as well as the cost to local taxpayers of "free" health care and education for illegal immigrants. To the extent they work and pay rent, illegals do pay for those government services. But we don't dismiss lightly the anxiety that many Americans feel at this rapid pace of demographic change. Well meaning politicians, such as Arizona Senator Jon Kyl, who feel obliged to respond to that anxiety in this election year are not part of the nativist brigades...Ten mexicans paying rent for one house will never pay for the huge costs to our country for medical and welfare benefits to these INVADERS. I just don't understand how they can say all this without putting: /Sarcasm...
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posted on
03/31/2006 3:54:09 AM PST
by
pageonetoo
(You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
To: wrathof59
The Republicans are now using on conservatives the old tired method usually used by liberals. They are insulting our core beliefs in hope of shaming us into submission. I grew up in Seattle and dealt with this stuff for years, didn't work then and it wont work now. To purposefully muddy the waters between legal and illegal is frankly a cowards way of framing his losing argument. We are not against immigration, just illegal immigration and that point needs to be hammered home by those on our side. Its sad to say but the republicans are making a huge mistake if they are trying to get re elected. I may not vote democrat ever, but not voting at all is a serious consideration, or maybe just voting at the local level and for my Congressman.
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posted on
03/31/2006 3:55:19 AM PST
by
normy
(Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
To: pageonetoo
The WSJ speaks for people who can reap the profits of cheap labor but wall themselves off from the consequences that the rest of us have to bear.
A cheap labor world is great for people who live off of returns from capital. Lousy for people who live on paychecks.
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posted on
03/31/2006 3:57:39 AM PST
by
Sam the Sham
(A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
To: pageonetoo
It's awfully nice that Senator John Kyl feels so obligated to respond to the concerns (not anxiety) of those who voted him into office (not "the nativist brigades")
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:03:53 AM PST
by
normy
(Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
To: pageonetoo
PS notice that the Evangelicals, Falwell, Robertson, have been extremely quiet about this issue that has turned into a crisis.
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:06:27 AM PST
by
stopem
(Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
To: pageonetoo
I am paraphrasing his words, but someone many of us know said, "He who climbs over the fence, and does not go through the gate is a thief."
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:06:38 AM PST
by
GarySpFc
(de oppresso liber)
To: pageonetoo
Actually I hope it is the party of Reagan, since tancredo looking at his resume has never worked in a wealth creating business in his life.
tancredo has either worked in govt.(teacher or legislator) or in a non-waelth producing think tank.
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:08:14 AM PST
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: Sam the Sham
At this time I support the party of Tancredo.
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:08:35 AM PST
by
stopem
(Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
Comment #12 Removed by Moderator
To: pageonetoo
"To wit, do Republicans want to continue in the Reagan tradition of American optimism and faith in assimilation that sends a message of inclusiveness to all races?"
Not with La Razza signs and Mexicans hoisting their flag over US schools.....the author is clearly a dolt!
To: pageonetoo
The GOP has sold out it's base, plain and simple. This will cost them dearly. They will lost control of the whitehouse and congress if this amnesty sham passes.
Comment #15 Removed by Moderator
To: Sam the Sham
The WSJ speaks for people who can reap the profits of cheap labor but wall themselves off from the consequences that the rest of us have to bear. Just wondering do you wear t-shirts with this guys face on it.
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:11:09 AM PST
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: GarySpFc
I think mot Americans are against people crawling over our borders like a pack of cockroaches.
We dont mind immigranrs and we want workers, we just want them to use the gate.Illegals are just that ILLEGAL.
To: JABBERBONK
Not with La Razza signs and Mexicans hoisting their flag over US schools.....the author is clearly a dolt! Huh not a peep from you about the liberal infested public schools that are actually a big part of the problem.
Figures.
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:12:42 AM PST
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: stopem
Yes, the leadership of the Christian Right has been quiet. But the chief intellectuals have not. Phyllis Schalfly and Cal Thomas have been spot on about this issue.
The key issue here is that Mexico's goal isn't simply to export its poor people to the American taxpayer. It is to create a pro-Mexican Fifth Column in American electoral politics (and never underestimate the level of irredentist anger in Mexican politics towards the US). And all those Mexican flags in those demonstrations make this very clear.
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:13:20 AM PST
by
Sam the Sham
(A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
To: normy
I may not vote democrat ever, but not voting at all is a serious consideration, or maybe just voting at the local level and for my Congressman.I was raised in a Democrat household. My 82 yr old mom still votes straight party ticket. I worked for Bobby Kennedy and voted for Jimmy Carter. But, when my eyes were opened by those 18% interest rates, I switched and campaigned hard for Ronaldus.
When Jesse Helms was challenged for the Senate by Harvey Gantt (the black mayor of Charlotte), I spent so much money that I got to sit at a table with he and Dan Quayle. I would vote for Dan. I will not vote for a RINO.
I have withdrawn my support for the national Rep. party, though I give to many with R behind their names (I live in WV and we have Sheets Byrd creeping along with Rockyfeller). I no longer list myself as a Republican. I would sign up again, if there were some true conservative patriots in power again.
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posted on
03/31/2006 4:14:04 AM PST
by
pageonetoo
(You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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