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Russia says no to sanctions against Iran
EuroNews ^ | 19APR06 | EuroNews

Posted on 04/19/2006 12:52:02 AM PDT by familyop

Russia has insisted it is opposed to moves by the United States and its allies to impose sanctions against Iran. At a meeting in Moscow, Russian officials met delegates from the US, Britain, France, Germany and China to discuss the latest moves in Iran's disputed nuclear programme. Afterwards Russian spokesman Mikhail Kamynin insisted that neither the sanctions route nor the use of force would lead to a solution of the problem.

In Washington, the Bush administration says further action is needed. White House spokesman Scott McLennan said: "Violations and failures by the regime to comply with its international obligations run contrary to the regime's claims that its nuclear programme is solely for peaceful purposes". The United Nations security Council has given Teheran until 28 April to stop work on making enriched uranium.

However Iran has defended its right to continue the programme which it says is for peaceful purposes. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared at an army parade the country would defend itself against any attack.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: axis; iran; israel; nosecuritycouncil; russia; syria; today; un; waronterror

1 posted on 04/19/2006 12:52:06 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

...related.

Iranian Alert - April 18, 2006 - Russia and China offer Iran to join their alliance
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617488/posts


2 posted on 04/19/2006 12:55:23 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop

Death to Putin


3 posted on 04/19/2006 1:10:18 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: familyop

Russia has oil, what do they care about Iran. As long as they continue to harass us.


4 posted on 04/19/2006 1:13:39 AM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: familyop

Possibly some bonehead in the Kremlin is still entertaining the age-old Russian pipedream of a port on the Arabian Sea.... and, of course, there's all that Persian Gulf oil. Probably, however, it's enough just to thumb their noses at the West; to be obstructionist; and to throw a monkey wrench into the workings of civilization. The latter has always seemed enough for the Russians; it's certainly enough for the Chinese.


5 posted on 04/19/2006 1:13:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: familyop

"The United Nations security Council has given Teheran until 28 April to stop work on making enriched uranium."

Or it'll give them to 28 MAY to stop work on making enriched uranium. And then, if they STILL don't stop...it'll give them until 28 JUNE, maybe even JULY. That'll fix their little Islamist wagons! /sarc


6 posted on 04/19/2006 1:16:20 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff and the President related?)
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To: familyop
If Russia cannot even agree to sanction Iran, given present day circumstances, it is time to either retire the United Nations or at least remove Russia from the Security Council.
7 posted on 04/19/2006 2:13:44 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: familyop

The League of Nations is just as useless today with Russia on the Security Council as it was when Lenin was still wasting oxygen.


8 posted on 04/19/2006 2:19:14 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: familyop
We are following the same track with Iran as the 70s.

Except this time we don't have a Jimmy Carter in office.

The smart money is strapping itself in by acquiring hard assets like gold because it will be a wild ride.


BUMP

9 posted on 04/19/2006 3:09:12 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Keep Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: capitalist229

We are as close to nuclear war as we have perhaps ever been.


10 posted on 04/19/2006 3:12:07 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: capitalist229

...well said, and thanks.


11 posted on 04/19/2006 3:13:14 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: justa-hairyape

Pretty much. Despite their protestations of other ideas, I don't see Russia offering a solution to the problem, do you? I think Iraq basically showed the UN is as useless as any institution can be.


12 posted on 04/19/2006 3:13:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (America for Americans: No amnesty.)
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To: familyop

Now the left will insist we can't do anything because the UN doesn't approve.


13 posted on 04/19/2006 3:17:26 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: justa-hairyape

It's the League of Naitons all over again.


14 posted on 04/19/2006 3:31:41 AM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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To: familyop
"...the nuclear facility at Brushehr, Iran is being built under an agreement between the Russian and Iranian governments for $800-million." globalsecurity.org/

"Russia has signed a deal with Iran to sell 29 of its Tor M-1 anti-missile systems, a development that will complicate any planned pre-emptive attack on the rogue nation's nuclear facilities, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin."

"Tula KBP, a (Russian) state-owned company making anti-aircraft and anti-missile devices, has been banned from doing business with the US and US companies for a year for selling the laser-guided Krasnopol M artillery shells to Iran." taipeitimes.com/

"Russia's weapons sales to Iran are purely for defensive purposes, a government spokesman said Saturday, in response to reports that Russia was selling $1 billion worth of weapons to Iran." Fox News

"Russia is clearly playing a double game. On the one hand, Lavrov and Putin do not want to create undue tension between Moscow and Washington, so they maintain the ploy of civil negotiations. On the other, they want to ensure that Iran has enough time to complete its nuclear weapons plans."

"How do we know this? Because the Iranians themselves make no bones about their strategy. Former Iranian nuclear negotiators Hassan Rouhani and Hosein Musavian have both said publicly that the three years Iran gained through its negotiations with the IAEA since late 2002 have allowed it to complete a key uranium conversion plant and to build hundreds of enrichment centrifuges in secret."

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15 posted on 04/19/2006 3:51:45 AM PDT by Daaave ("Gunter glieben glauchen globen.")
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To: thoughtomator

The league of nations wasn't this corrupt!


16 posted on 04/19/2006 3:52:06 AM PDT by jshermn
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To: familyop
The headline might as well be:

Russia says no yes to nuclear weapons for sanctions against Iran

17 posted on 04/19/2006 3:54:15 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: familyop
"Afterwards Russian spokesman Mikhail Kamynin insisted that neither the sanctions route nor the use of force would lead to a solution of the problem."

Well, we tried the civil route, now nuke'em!

18 posted on 04/19/2006 4:10:31 AM PDT by blam
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To: silentknight
We are as close to nuclear war as we have perhaps ever been.

The CMC brought us much closer than we are now....

19 posted on 04/19/2006 4:11:19 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: familyop

Russia is sleeping with the diseased in it's quest to find allies that will make it seem a force that we must fear....


20 posted on 04/19/2006 4:34:16 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: familyop

Bombing Iran is the only thing that will save New York City from destruction.

We're wasting precious time.


21 posted on 04/19/2006 4:41:33 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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To: familyop

What are the chances Iran is provoking an attack with the intent of launching a nuclear weapon they already have operational against Israel?

Two things Imasgoodasdead has said clearly:

- We intend to wipe Israel off the map.
- We will fight back if attacked.


22 posted on 04/19/2006 4:42:21 AM PDT by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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To: tomahawk
Bombing Iran is the only thing that will save New York City from destruction.

From what I've seen New York City doesn't much want to be saved.

23 posted on 04/19/2006 4:48:39 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: familyop

Anyone else convinced that China, Russia, and Iran are in bed with each other?


24 posted on 04/19/2006 4:48:50 AM PDT by pctech
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To: Jack Hammer

"....it's enough just to thumb their noses at the West; to be obstructionist; and to throw a monkey wrench into the workings of civilization. The latter has always seemed enough for the Russians; it's certainly enough for the Chinese."

Extremely well stated. In retaliation against Moscow I believe the US should aggressively seek political change in Belarus, and consider some sort of dialogue with mainstream anti-Russian Chechens (not terrorists).


25 posted on 04/19/2006 4:53:47 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: pctech
Not 'convinced'... but I've more than once entertained the thought. Have you read The Ezekiel Option ?
26 posted on 04/19/2006 4:56:31 AM PDT by johnny7 (ďNah, I ainít Jewish, I just donít dig on swine, thatís all.Ē)
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To: EGPWS

Mornng EGPWS,
Roger that, and I remember very well.

NSNR


27 posted on 04/19/2006 5:03:27 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: pctech

Russia, China and Iran are the real Axis of evil. Russia has returned to the Soviet level of morality, allying with the most evil scum of the earth from Sudan, to Syria to Iran. basically if you are corrupt, evil dictator starving and/or oppressing your people, you have an ally in Russia and China. Russia and China re the biggest threats the world faces today.


28 posted on 04/19/2006 5:04:06 AM PDT by gafusa
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To: johnny7

Your are joking, right? Russia is an open ally of Iran, the do no even deny they are in bed with Iran. Along with every other evil regime. Look at the list of Russia's allies. Russia's allies are regimes so vile, no decent country will ally with.


29 posted on 04/19/2006 5:08:44 AM PDT by gafusa
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To: pctech

Morning PCtech,
I am in full agreement with you in your conclusion.

These countries along with the democrats/others are in the full motion to see the fall of the USA.

Liberals thinks they will be spared in the event this happens.

Word Up, the enemies of America will kill the(traitorous) enemies within America.

Logic, how can we trust you komrade, when you will turn on your own country/people?

The writing is on the wall,
NSNR


30 posted on 04/19/2006 5:11:06 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: familyop
Putin created Bush's political quagmire by smuggling Saddam's WMD to Syria. Now he sides with nuclear Iran. Putin is playing three dimensional chess and winning mightily. Bush is playing a very bad game of checkers. Putin just took Bush's Queen. The choice is simple for Bush: Either expose the truth about Spetnaz troops top secret operation or face the demise of the Republican Party in November. The clock is ticking loudly and in slow motion. It's now Bush's move . . . tick, tick, tick . . .

Many Bush supporters gave up following this game eons ago. Far too painful. In the meantime, America is being invaded by Mexico. How many foreign agents with hostile intent have walked into the U.S. recently? Nobody in power seems to know or even care. Congress is happily counting bribe money and waiting to surrender en mass. China most powerful politician visits Bill Gates. Time to open a bottle as the whole world slowly stops turning.

31 posted on 04/19/2006 5:17:40 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: familyop

Can President Bush still read Putin's heart? I sure as heck hope so because the Russians are doing everything in their power to allow Iran to go nuclear.


32 posted on 04/19/2006 5:31:08 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: familyop
Until Russia says it will defend Iran militarily, I'm not going to worry. I believe, when the time comes for action, Russia will step back and let things take their course. Interfering would not be a wise choice.
33 posted on 04/19/2006 5:33:33 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: IamConservative
- We will fight back if attacked.

And didn't they say that any type of Santions would be considered an attack?

34 posted on 04/19/2006 5:42:50 AM PDT by EBH (We're too PC to understand WAR has been declared upon us and the enemy is within.)
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To: familyop

The Russians are a bunch of S@umbags- always have been.


35 posted on 04/19/2006 5:50:31 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: EBH
And didn't they say that any type of Santions would be considered an attack?

I believe they in fact did just that.

With all the bragadoccia and saber rattling being done by Iran, whom by any definition is out armed by the US Military, you can't think they are going to stand toe to toe and slug it out. That would last about 15 minutes. I think they will try to become a victim politically while making small and very quick lethal attacks on Israel and the west.

36 posted on 04/19/2006 5:57:03 AM PDT by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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To: IamConservative

I believe that Iran already has nukes. They are baiting Israel. Once attacked they will nuke Israel and destroy it.


37 posted on 04/19/2006 6:04:13 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: silentknight
I believe that Iran already has nukes. They are baiting Israel. Once attacked they will nuke Israel and destroy it.

That is the only conclusion I can come to as well. That is the only thing that explains the willingness of Iran to provoke what has traditionally been a far superior enemy.

It may also explain why the Bush admin has been seemingly very preoccupied.

38 posted on 04/19/2006 6:13:10 AM PDT by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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To: familyop

Gog Magog


39 posted on 04/19/2006 6:23:13 AM PDT by marbren
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To: IamConservative
That is the only conclusion I can come to as well. That is the only thing that explains the willingness of Iran to provoke what has traditionally been a far superior enemy.

Another logical possibility is that since Iran seriously intends to go nuclear, they will not stop that process. They now know that the US will try to prevent them from going nuclear and the US will probably intervene with a military strike on their exposed assets. Now if you know you are going to be attacked anyway, why not get the first punch in ? When faced with that same situation on the outbreak of WWII, Japan decided to first strike the US fleet in Hawaii before their conquest of the eastern Pacific.

40 posted on 04/19/2006 12:04:28 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: silentknight
I believe that Iran already has nukes

you may be right but where's the delivery system? And if so, I wonder if they realize that they are betting their entire nation on an untested weapon?

41 posted on 04/19/2006 12:16:44 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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To: johnny7

Actually no, though I think I have heard of it. What's the general premise of the book?


42 posted on 04/19/2006 2:11:52 PM PDT by pctech
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Which is why every liberal at the government level needs to be thrown out of office and a newer administration needs to take over that will dramatically increase the size of the military, secure the borders, and provide for a more secure nation.


43 posted on 04/19/2006 2:13:48 PM PDT by pctech
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To: gafusa

Russia, China, North Korea, Venezulua, Cuba, perhaps Peru will be the next one to add to that list. And that's just an abbreviated list. It seems that the end time biblical prophesy of Gog and Magog and the Kings of the East are finally starting to take shape.


44 posted on 04/19/2006 2:16:58 PM PDT by pctech
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To: pctech
It's good... in fact, just came out in paperback version.

Deals with Russia teaming up with Iran... pushing for Israel to surrender her nukes so that Iran will stop development of theirs. Israel, of course, cannot allow this. The EU and most of the world is for it... the American president is... let's say... somewhat undecided.

There's bible prophecy involved too.

45 posted on 04/19/2006 2:27:04 PM PDT by johnny7 (ďNah, I ainít Jewish, I just donít dig on swine, thatís all.Ē)
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To: johnny7

I'll have to look that book up. Sounds interesting. Thanks.


46 posted on 04/19/2006 2:33:32 PM PDT by pctech
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To: johnny7

I'll have to look that book up. Sounds interesting. Thanks. Also sounds like this whole Iranian nuclear arms mess is a prelude to all that is happening now.


47 posted on 04/19/2006 2:34:07 PM PDT by pctech
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To: pctech

Morning PCTech,
Damn right!! We have a splinter group of commie/AQ repesentatives in our house and senate(democraps)

They are hoping America will fall and then they can take over.The commie dems/msm are doing everything in their power to subvert, disrupt,aid/abett the enemies of the USA.
We need another President Reagan, to shut this circus down for the Good of America.

Those democraps will stop at nothing to acheive their goal.

In my opinion this whole traitorous rebellion reeks of the clandestine "shadow government's" (subertuge inc) located in klintoon's House of Harlem.

We should be aware, klintoon wants to re-occupy the White House even as second in charge with the "wicked witch of the red star."

I beleive we should pull our troops from thankless germany, korea generation x country, and the rest of the unnnecessary places.

Once done, place them on the borders, insure they have adequate housing for their families in close proximity to their location.

Our borders can then be protected and the miltary there can go home to their families when off duty(subject to recall.)

Just think of the money we would save in not paying rent to a foreign country to utilize their sub-standard bases for (their sorry thankless asses to be protected by us.)
All those gravy train foreign country civil service "high paying do nothing jobs" would vanish.= excessive American tax dollars by us.

By having our military here on the borders those pay check dollars would go into our economy and not line the economic coffers of another foreign thankless country.

As to Russia, a General officer friend of mine always said in dealing with communist, "never ever trust them, for they have not changed their goal of either taking over or destroying America from without and within."

*Your post was excellent and it is a shame your ideas will be ignored at a time when implementing would save America from the nemisis our enemies have planned for this great nation.*

In closing, PCTech you are a true patriot and I wish you the best always.

Color Me Red, White and Blue,
NSNR






48 posted on 04/20/2006 5:41:46 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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