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Arizona's Prop 200 Screening Out Illegal (Alien) Voters
NewsMax.com ^ | Monday, May 9, 2005 11:45 a.m. EDT

Posted on 05/06/2006 10:01:52 PM PDT by dennisw

Prop 200 Screening Out Illegal Voters

Stricter immigration laws now on the books in Arizona that require elections officials to check for proof of citizenship have uncovered thousands of new registrants who don't qualify to vote.

According to the Arizona Daily Star, state election officials credit the citizenship requirement contained in Proposition 200, the illegal-immigration initiative passed last November, for screening out the illegal voters.

In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.

"We rejected none during the same period last year," when six times as many people were registering because of the presidential election, said Registrar of Voters Chris Roads. "There was nothing in the law that required a rejection" last year, he explained.

Most voter registration forms rejected by Prima County since April 20, when officials started keeping track, were submitted by new voters who provided no valid proof of citizenship whatsoever, Roads said.

Despite the fact that it's illegal for non-citizens to vote, the rejections had Arizona Democrats up in arms.

Paul Eckerstrom, chairman of the Prima County Democratic Party, complained that forcing Arizona voters to prove their citizenship is "anti-American and anti-democracy."

"It's just another obstacle for voters to deal with," Eckerstrom griped. "The whole idea behind this thing is to suppress voter turnout."

He said Proposition 200's "real intent" was to make it difficult for voters - especially those inclined to vote Democratic - to cast a ballot.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; deadvoters; democrats; demonrats; dimorats; dnc; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; kerry; leftists; rat; rats; voterfraud
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To: dennisw
In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.

Holy cow.

Despite the fact that it's illegal for non-citizens to vote, the rejections had Arizona Democrats up in arms.

Figgers.

51 posted on 05/07/2006 4:54:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Darkwolf377
I just woke up this morning and saw this post. Firstly, Way to Go Arizona! This has been one of my biggest concerns about illegal immigration.

Why would a voter object to keeping out votes that would make his own vote less meamingful?

They object because the strenthening of the voter registration law affects their party more than others. Obcviously that is because they register more non-complying voters than other parties.

I am seeing red again.

52 posted on 05/07/2006 5:01:39 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: dennisw

BTTT


53 posted on 05/07/2006 5:04:23 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
You got it in a nutchell.

This and the Virginia election earlier this week are showing us how it's done--you don't sulk and say "Throw 'em out and teach 'em a lesson" and let the Dems take over--you fight. And you win.

54 posted on 05/07/2006 5:10:49 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (If you flame me I'll ignore you. Assume that to mean I think you're an idiot not worth my time.)
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To: Draco; concerned about politics; Texas_Jarhead
Time to play hardball with government officials and employees. Elected officials, and government employees who handle the public purse, are subject to a higher standard of law than ordinary citizens. They serve under stricter rules, and must abide by specific laws:

ESTABLISHED FACT

Every elected and appointed government official, and government employees---in their capacity as fiduciaries of public monies---are required, by law, to be bonded by state bonding insurance carriers. The express purpose of bonding government officials and employees is to protect the public's money. Each state sets their own regulations, and selects a bonding insurance carrier.

Public entities that mandate bonding include: Municipalities, counties, townships (government employees of licensing agencies, and the like), school districts, ambulance districts, volunteer fire departments, community college districts, public universities, transit authorities, landfills, sewage treatment facilities, public works maintenance facilities, airports.

IMPACT

Taxpayers' concerns center on instances when elected and appointed public officials used government agencies fraudulently, misused tax dollars to build muster zones for illegals, allowed illegals to use phony documentation to get voting rights, government benefits, auto licenses, building permits, welfare, food stamps, health care, school subsidies, and other government benefits, to vote in elections, to vote on tax-exempt municipal financing issues, and the like using false documenation. These are examples of fiduciary negligence by a bonded government employee, and would violate the state's bonding regulations, and the carrier's bonding requirements.

SUMMATION

USING THE PUBLIC ASSETS OF STATE GOVERNMENT---- to pass legislation to allow undocumented immigrants to obtain fraudulent driver's licenses, voting rights, and government benefits---- IS FIDUCIARY NEGLIGENCE BY A BONDED GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL. MISUSE OF PUBLIC AGENCIES AND PUBLIC FUNDS WOULD INCUR FINES OR IMPRISONMENT UNDER BONDING RULES.

FOLLOW-UP (what to look for)

Now, if a bonded government employee OR ELECTED OFFICIAL had previous financial problems---perhaps a bankruptcy or a job loss for financial improprieties, etc, that would preclude bonding---and if they failed to reveal the info to bonding agents, that would subject them to legal penalties for filing false applications.

Public officials with past financial problems who do not qualify for bonding would have to be tossed out of office.

Now, say government funds were stolen and the public official had failed to get bond coverage; the state would have no way to recover that money other than restitution through a criminal prosecution.

Public officials who lied on bonding applications might be subjected to fines or imprisonment.

If it is determined a public official failed to apply for bond coverage, he/she has broken the law, and is subject to an actionable offense.

55 posted on 05/07/2006 5:15:19 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: pollywog

Why does no one ever turn to a POS like this and say, and your is a brazen attempt to inject yourself into a system your not entitled to have a say in?


56 posted on 05/07/2006 5:16:46 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Darkwolf377

I've been hearing something very disturbing about the Mexican "uprisings" of late. There is a heavy presence of agencies that have voter registration as their goal - ACORN is one of the agencies. There will now be a flood of new registration forms. In most states, they will be processed because all you need is an address.


57 posted on 05/07/2006 5:20:39 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: dennisw

America is SUPPOSE to be a melting pot NOT
a sponge drenched in debt continually and ineffectively absorbing illegals free health, education, insurance, etc., is draining each and every American tax payer.

The cost continously passed onto Americans through all forms of constant, unexplainable insurance premium hikes far exceeds anything we save spent on vegetables at grocery stores.


58 posted on 05/07/2006 5:37:15 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Yes, the article is a year old. Good point.
Still, I'm glad it was posted because it is a reminder about the need for laws in all 50 states similar to Proposition 200.

One thing about Proposition 200 is that it didn't go far enough. It only applies to new registrations. I wonder how many thousands of illegal registrations were received before Proposition 200 became law?


59 posted on 05/07/2006 6:41:26 AM PDT by Molly K.
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To: dennisw
Despite the fact that it's illegal for non-citizens to vote, the rejections had Arizona Democrats up in arms.

Now we begin to get the bottom of a very real conspiracty. A totalitarian attempt at takeover by the Democrat Party which has been going on for years. The leadership which has been involved in this should be tried for treason and executed.

60 posted on 05/07/2006 6:44:34 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: dennisw
Paul Eckerstrom, chairman of the Prima County Democratic Party, complained that forcing Arizona voters to prove their citizenship is "anti-American and anti-democracy."

I want no part of Eckerstrom's "democracy". This kind of attitude and behavior is going to lead to war.

61 posted on 05/07/2006 6:45:38 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: pollywog
.....This is INSANE!How can proving citizenship be " anti American"???

This is our future if we don't strengthen our party and president, and get behind them this fall, to defeat the RATs.

62 posted on 05/07/2006 6:47:59 AM PDT by montag813
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To: seastay; dennisw
In Chicago, Democratic campaign worker Howie Connum expressed frustration at his inability to get many of the protestors to register to vote. "These morons think that because they are here illegally and don't speak English that they shouldn't vote," said a fuming Connum. "I tell them that their votes are a way to safe guard their rights, but they have an overblown fear of getting caught. There's a basic lack of understanding about how the system works."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1627102/posts.

That was satire. See Post 7 plus Keywords.

63 posted on 05/07/2006 7:37:44 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: HiJinx

ping


64 posted on 05/07/2006 7:39:59 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: dennisw
"We rejected none during the same period last year," when six times as many people were registering because of the presidential election, said Registrar of Voters Chris Roads. "There was nothing in the law that required a rejection" last year, he explained.

Stunning. 

I'd be less shocked if I were run over by a bus being driven by a gopher.

65 posted on 05/07/2006 7:46:22 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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To: Dennis; DumpsterDiver

thanks for the reality check on http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1627102/posts , anyone could have read that article, even though it is headlined as "Sim-news" and believe it all to be true. laugh, because there were some other real investigative reports that documented some of satires;

-Democrats are fishing for illegal voters

-Most weren't even aware there was a boycott on May 1st

-People appreciated the lighter traffic on May 1st

-Drug cartels didn't recognize the boycott

-Aztlan movement called to be recognized at sporting events with their anthem played along with the spangled banner

so actually these aren't that far fetched, even for the sporting event joke, the San Diego Padres did, (or maybe still do), fly the Mexican Flag next to the Stars and Stripes !!!


66 posted on 05/07/2006 9:45:36 AM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay
anyone could have read that article, even though it is headlined as "Sim-news" and believe it all to be true.

I have yet to see a voter reform bill that was not opposed by democrats. Any attempt to have people prove their identity when registering to vote meets with their disapproval.

The one tip off to that article being satire that I noticed was the name Howie Connum (How we con 'em).

67 posted on 05/07/2006 10:15:19 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: dennisw
Stricter immigration laws now on the books in Arizona that require elections officials to check for proof of citizenship have uncovered thousands of new registrants who don't qualify to vote.

I am not a fan of too much government intervention, but on this issue, I believe checking for proof of citizenship, prior to voting should be not only state and county mandated, but federally mandated as well. This is a no brainer!

68 posted on 05/07/2006 12:25:51 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Darkwolf377

"Why would a voter object to keeping out votes that would make his own vote less meamingful?"

C'mon, think like a Democrat - these ilegal alien votes are 'meaningful' if they mean Democrats win office.
The end justifies the means.
And Republicans are meanies for shutting down this gamed election system.


69 posted on 05/07/2006 3:07:09 PM PDT by WOSG (Faith & Reason)
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To: Molly K.
I wonder how many thousands of illegal registrations were received before Proposition 200 became law?

You really don't want to know. With recent elections so close, only a few illegal votes will change the course of history.

70 posted on 05/07/2006 4:06:49 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: dennisw
"Despite the fact that it's illegal for non-citizens to vote, the rejections had Arizona Democrats up in arms."




Who-ever wrote this article is wrong. Permanent residents ( Green card holders) can register and vote in certain elections (Usually local and state) that don't require them to be a U.S.citizen.

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/PermRes.htm#voting
71 posted on 05/12/2006 10:10:48 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Proving citizenship should be required. Anyone that does not agree is illegal and they do not want anyone knowing they are criminals.


72 posted on 09/10/2006 9:21:56 PM PDT by Dian from Texas (Remember the Alamo !!)
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To: Dian from Texas

That's it in a nutshell. A real American should be PROUD to flash his US Citizen ID!


73 posted on 09/10/2006 9:25:02 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Draco

These are criminals we are talking about, why should they tell the truth? When they go and tap our reserves at the hospitals, and all the destitute reserves that are offered by this country. Do you think they would have any qualms about lying? Criminals will lie, and that is pure fact!! How many criminals do you know that will say they are innocent???? They lie and will continue to lie as long as it benefits them in some way.


74 posted on 09/10/2006 9:26:30 PM PDT by Dian from Texas (Remember the Alamo !!)
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To: mewzilla

Have you seen any law that the illegals have obeyed? I would bet they will all vote. Our ignorant officials will see to it....and it a few years you better learn how to speak Mexican. I say Mexican because it is not correct Spanish......The true Spanish will tell you that Mexicans speak a different Spanish that comes from the poor destitute Mexico. I resent the fact they are trying now to teach our children their language. Who cares about that language. Our language is English and anyone that wants to speak their language can go to Mexico. They have fired a lot of teachers here in Texas to hire "Spanish Speaking" teachers. How fair is that? If we don't do something, We will all be eating tamales soon.


75 posted on 09/10/2006 9:35:08 PM PDT by Dian from Texas (Remember the Alamo !!)
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To: Darkwolf377

I read today that they were flying a Mexican flag over a post office, I think it was Az. They flew our Old Glory upside down. (and under their flag) They have no respect for any of us...they only want "money" and "freebies"
I would like to say they are really not good for much except draining our resources. We have a lot of firemen that have the debris in their lungs and the illegals are able to get what those brave men cannot. What kind of men do we have in office anyway?????


76 posted on 09/10/2006 9:42:21 PM PDT by Dian from Texas (Remember the Alamo !!)
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