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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: pissant

If I didn't know better,
I'd think you thought you were being funny.

But I know you're dead serious.


1,001 posted on 05/17/2006 11:32:56 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Dane; Lead Moderator
Uh dirt, those type of comemnts come from an almost cult that posts incessently on FR

Yeah, and Lanni Davis blamed OKC on Rush and conservatives. Same kind of association of the larger group with a small violent minority. And just as despicable.

If LM wants to make the case for Bush's proposal, make the case. Quit sliming the entire opposition to Bush because of a few over-the-top posters.

1,002 posted on 05/17/2006 11:33:33 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Dave S
I sure hope you are right.

I'd say it's precarious right now due to the divisiveness of this one issue......a divisiveness pushed by well meaning border bots, many of whom are my good friends.

T

1,003 posted on 05/17/2006 11:33:52 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: najida
Darlin', there may come a day when you see and feel differently.

**************

I fail to understand your point, I confess.

1,004 posted on 05/17/2006 11:33:55 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Vicomte13; All
..My hope is that angry Border Conservatives, when they retaliate against the Republican Party, which they will, and indeed - given human psychology and self-respect, MUST - do so intelligently...

I agree 1000% with this and appreciate your overall response.

Hey FReepers, how about a strategy for making sure the right folks stay in office and the wrong ones get booted?

1,005 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:02 AM PDT by mafree
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To: Coop

You may have Ostrich syndrome if you don't beleive Al Quaeda wouldn't use that route like the Mexicans do. .


1,006 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:04 AM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: prairiebreeze

Are you saying there is a language for conservatives that liberals don't use and visa versa?

HEY!

Did I miss a workshop or training session!?!?


1,007 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:08 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Dave S

If they take over the House and start impeachment hearings to appease the lunatic fringe. They will also link legislation to an immidiate withdrawl from Iraq. You should take a look at some liberal sites to see what they have planned, it aint sitting on their hands waiting for 2008.


1,008 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:08 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Coop
Not big on sarcasm, huh?

Sorry, that wasn't sarcasm.

1,009 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:14 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: gondramB
As a newcomer I tend to assume that anybody with a '98 signup date is a battle hardened proven conservative Freeper.

Not a safe assumption by any means, but that is still considerably less silly than assuming that they were planted in '98 for the purpose of rising 8 years later to get into arguments with Republicans.

1,010 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:15 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: hispanarepublicana
Who is "they"?

A majority, not all, of the fresh arrivals from south of the border come from a different culture and have a different mindset about what a society is and how it functions. It is what it is. That is why Mexico is what it is. Some cultures are more collectivist than ours. Mexico is rich in natural and human resources, so why is it so bad that people want to leave? Answer: a corrupt political system born from a different culture and mindset. I have traveled all over Latin America for over 35 years and came by my opinions firsthand and honestly. I like the people there well enough or I would not visit there, but I don't have the same mindset that allows that kind of political system. The illegals first act in this country is just that - illegal- breaking our laws and demonstrating a disrepect for our laws. I don't want America to become a socialized country like Mexico. I'll bet the majority of Hispanic voters in South Texas vote Democrat. Am I wrong?

1,011 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:16 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (North American distributor for Mohammed Urinals. Franchises available.)
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To: pbrown
Not surprised...shocked that he would be so open about it

Oh you should listen to the senate every day they are in session like I and other do

These Dems don't hold back anything .. there are a lot of grandstanding speeches too

1,012 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:31 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Pukin Dog

Great Rant. God Bless.


1,013 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:36 AM PDT by isaiah55version11_0 (For His Glory)
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To: The_Victor

I would vouch for her too, but it won't make a difference.


1,014 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:42 AM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: Coop

No, nope.


1,015 posted on 05/17/2006 11:34:52 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Denver Ditdat

I've just received a ping to notify me that Senator Sessions' amendment being voted on now!


1,016 posted on 05/17/2006 11:35:24 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: dirtboy

I can disagree with Bush and the Republcans over this issue or any other and still not want to side with Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, et al. I despise everything they stand for.


1,017 posted on 05/17/2006 11:35:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Torie

You're welcome


1,018 posted on 05/17/2006 11:36:00 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Peach
It's disturbing and frightening. If I thought there was an alternative, I'd be all for it. But there isn't, so I'll keep voting for Republicans so we can keep getting conservative judges who will MAYBE make enoough court decisions in my lifetime that I will see the country swing away from socialism.

I don't think that there is a practical national alternative to the Republican party for conservatives. Not now, and not in the foreseeable future. Since I consider myself a conservative first, I have, do, and will continue to vote Republican.

How do we influence change in the party when we think it's necessary? I can see why those who believe that "Vote 'em out!" is the most direct way to make their concerns known. It's a statement phrased in language every career politician understands. It's also cutting off one's nose to spite one's face if a rat gains office and proceeds to run wild for even a term or two.

What is the alternative? I wish I knew.

1,019 posted on 05/17/2006 11:36:12 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat ("Deus Vult" is the answer to "Allahu Akbar")
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To: Vicomte13
The polls will even lie and tell you the President scooped it out. One poll published today said that just 2% of opponents to the President - 2%!

The Dims and their media allies want those 30 million+ new voters pretty badly, don't they?
1,020 posted on 05/17/2006 11:36:36 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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