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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: George W. Bush

We are well within our sovereign rights to deploy landmines anywhere on U.S. territory. Are you suggesting that we have no right to deploy them against North Koreans who desire to 'immigrate' to South Korea?

Nonsense. We have used landmines for a century and can use them in any area we are protecting legitimately.


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Don't be stupid or dishonest.

Are you suggesting landmines on our SOUTHERN BORDER?


1,101 posted on 05/17/2006 11:48:50 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: najida

How about some lemonade out on the veranda?


1,102 posted on 05/17/2006 11:48:59 AM PDT by dougmilner (Space rented by Derllak)
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To: prairiebreeze

BJClinton had it right with the "ZOT belt" comment... but to say that his outburst makes him a DUmmy is just plain... stupid.


1,103 posted on 05/17/2006 11:49:05 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (** Tagline Removed By Admin Moderator **)
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To: Spiff

It's a start ;)


1,104 posted on 05/17/2006 11:49:23 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: lentulusgracchus
Its all in the way you look at it. I wasn't taunting anyone, just reminding everyone that Bush has done nothing but follow the promises he made during his campaign. It was not meant to disrespect anyone, and everyone has a right to disagree with the man.

Again, my argument is about STYLE, not substance of opposition to the President.

1,105 posted on 05/17/2006 11:49:30 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Quix

Great post.

We could be very effective if we did serve as the place to find out what the democratic party is really doing.

Look at Rush. His effectiveness is that he explains the liberal mindset and he interprets the current events as to the real purpose in them.

And, he has done more for the conservative movement than any I know of.

We have had glimpses of that power over the years with the Dan Rather episode and the other "revealings". We need to expend our energies on more of this.

Only trouble, not all of us have that ability - we are the learners.


1,106 posted on 05/17/2006 11:49:37 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: Spiff; Jim Robinson
Thanks for that.

From what I see from much time spent here on a daily basis, is that the only common denominator between those who break forum rules between posters that are in an argument either defending GWB on some issue and those that dissent, is that the dissenters are most often slapped down or even suspended/banned. Quite often those 'forum rules' seem not to apply to the former, they receive much more latitude than the latter.

I supported and voted twice for GWB, and am a conservative that believes in principle before party. I see nothing wrong with voicing disagreement towards any policy that GWB might stand for if it is done in a civil and constructive manner. To thwart or punish those who do offer constructive criticism is foolhardy as eventually the dialog here will become a shallow gene pool of inbreeding.

Respectful discourse to advance conservatism should be welcomed not bullied into submission.

Thanks for FR Jim, Conservatism and the health of the Republic can always benefit from it's true Patriots, if they remain strong to given principles.
1,107 posted on 05/17/2006 11:49:40 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Lead Moderator

Can I give you a smooch?


1,108 posted on 05/17/2006 11:50:00 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Mo1
Dont know, I have the sound turned down so I can listen to Rush 24/7
1,109 posted on 05/17/2006 11:50:39 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Tribune7
One question as I read Lincoln's statement about a 'house divided' I was wondering all day yesterday as I watched the Senate on CSpan, why are people not angry with the runaway Senators who are voting with the Dems? Are they not dividing the 'house'? ~Literally Are we suppose to continue to vote for them also when you have a buddy system of say Obama/McCain? Remind me again WHO is tearing up the party?
1,110 posted on 05/17/2006 11:50:47 AM PDT by JustPiper (We will be Governed by Rule of Law NOT by Mob Rule Senator !!!)
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To: najida

Then you obviously don't read DU...


1,111 posted on 05/17/2006 11:50:50 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: onyx

Kerry voted aye.


1,112 posted on 05/17/2006 11:51:18 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Vicomte13
Quite the wordsmith. Would that I had your talent. You said exactly what I would have said if I could have said... ;^)

Bottom line? It's not the border situation alone, but any number of missteps by "our" guys. Stopping the illegal invasion is just the final straw for most conservatives. It just coincidentally happens to be a minimum.

Thanks for putting into words what I suspect so many others believe.

FGS

1,113 posted on 05/17/2006 11:51:19 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: dougmilner

I think I have a watermelon in the fridge I can cut up and bring out too.


1,114 posted on 05/17/2006 11:52:09 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Smogger

I am almost falling out of my chair.

There must be a trick in here somewhere...lol.


1,115 posted on 05/17/2006 11:52:27 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: LucyT

I rest my case.


1,116 posted on 05/17/2006 11:52:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: prairiebreeze

And obviously you don't know much of what goes on around here ;)


1,117 posted on 05/17/2006 11:52:40 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Admin Moderator
groom them to put on their wife-beaters and come on FR to abuse women. That'd be the life!

Already happens. Check out 'General Chat' once in awhile.

1,118 posted on 05/17/2006 11:52:44 AM PDT by Millee (Tancredo 08!)
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To: nicmarlo
It's because conservatives would rather burn the country down than accept a compromise on any of 'their' issues.

I well remember a conservative running against Rudy Guiliani in NY. Into town came Bill Bennett and Jack Kemp. Campaigning for the conservative.

The conservative got between 1 and 2% of the vote. Rudy Guiliani barely won the election. Imagine having David Dinkins as Mayor againg thanks to the conservatives.

Evidently they felt their way or no way. To hell with the people living and working in NYC. A city long deemed ungovernable.

Think about the alternative when you blovaite about how wonderful conservatives are for the country.

1,119 posted on 05/17/2006 11:52:44 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: BJClinton

Same complaint, no evidence offered. You're boring me.


1,120 posted on 05/17/2006 11:53:03 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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