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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: DCPatriot
The PA pols backed down and didn't even get their raises but the people were mad as hell.

Here in NJ, long time ago, our esteemed governor sought to put a tax on toilet paper. That was the final straw!!! He did not survive the next election. There is always a tipping point and you never do know what it is going to be.

1,381 posted on 05/17/2006 12:44:20 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: ohioWfan

They are so over the top, you almost think they are satire but they aren't....
which makes them depressing,
and more than a bit disturbing.


1,382 posted on 05/17/2006 12:45:03 PM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Lead Moderator; dirtboy
Why not both? Your case was not convincing

For someone who was just complaining the mods take sides .. it's funny to hear how he wants you now to take a side

1,383 posted on 05/17/2006 12:45:05 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: CougarGA7

No can do. As for the 2 posters in question, you don't need to take my word for it. Would Jim's be enough for you?


1,384 posted on 05/17/2006 12:45:24 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Pukin Dog

See what you have did????........;-)


1,385 posted on 05/17/2006 12:45:29 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: ohioWfan
I've noticed a pattern with you dirtboy. After you badmouth people and get called on it, you always talk about how 'supportive' you are. I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds that interesting.

I have long supported the moderators here. I only started to criticize them recently because I felt they were taking sides. And I also think a mod should not express personal views while posting as a mod, other than what deals directly with his moderation duties.

Oh, and if people badmouth me, I bite back. I tend to be polite to those who are polite to me. What I usually see are people who start a fight complaining because I returned in kind.

1,386 posted on 05/17/2006 12:45:57 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Brian Allen
Is that you, Lincoln? Repent and make your father proud, you weasel!
1,387 posted on 05/17/2006 12:46:09 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: onyx

I think that the Senate knows that more enforcement measures than they care for are going to come out as part of the final legislation. Fencing is one area I speak of there.

Giving a bit now will make it look like less of a concession in the conference part of this task.

For once, I feel that the house is flexing its muscle and the Senate is feeling the pinch.

Maybe I am wrong here, but I think alot of us are going to be surprised by the end legislation. Surprised in a good way that is. AH maybe it is just wishful thinking....


1,388 posted on 05/17/2006 12:46:15 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: onyx

;)


1,389 posted on 05/17/2006 12:46:21 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: CWOJackson

LOL!


1,390 posted on 05/17/2006 12:46:48 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Mo1
For someone who was just complaining the mods take sides .. it's funny to hear how he wants you now to take a side

Hey, LM started posting opinions on this thread and continued to do such. He made this bed, now he/she can lie in it.

1,391 posted on 05/17/2006 12:46:48 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy
Immigration increased, if it did, because there are jobs here. The economy is growing and there is work to be done.

It has nothing to do with anecdotal trash thrown at the President for talking about guest workers.

If there were no jobs there would be no illegals.

1,392 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:03 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: wallcrawlr
This thread has morphed into an airing of grievances...here's mine.

Feats of strength to follow shortly.

When do we put up the Festivus pole?

1,393 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:08 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Pukin Dog
One of the favorite troll lines: "Bush spends like a drunken sailor". Never mind that Bush doesn't spend at all, and only Congress does, but hey what are facts among friends?

Congress passes the bill and Bush signs it. They are all equally responsible for the out of control spending.

1,394 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:10 PM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: dirtboy
Bush started talking seriously about a guest worker program, illegal crossings have jumped. That right there is a solid indication that we need to have security in place before changing any existing laws.

I don't mean to bust your bubble, but i keep hearing this statement made continuously and it is disingenuous.

The border crossings did spike, but they spiked because of the use of the "Amnesty word" which did not come from Bush. it came from the detractors of the "guest worker program and from nowhere else.

Once the press picked up on it, and printed that word in virtually every story, now numbered in the thousands for the past two years, it is no wonder that people in Mexico have erroneously come to the conclusion that amnesty will be enacted shortly and they better get moving or they will lose the opportunity.

But we both know that just ain't so, don't we?

1,395 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:15 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: CougarGA7

Exactly!

And we can do it with all the strays.

I mean spoil them rotten, treat them well, love them to pieces....and let them play with whatever comes over the fence :)


1,396 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:20 PM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Don't completely agree with your rants but WOW 1300 + posts! Great work!


1,397 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:25 PM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: Pukin Dog

"Bush spends like a drunken sailor"

I am tired of all sailors being called drunks.
How about Bush & Congress spend like a Drunken Kennedy.
Of course Drunken Kennedy is redundant.


1,398 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:33 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
So, we will instead build a wall to secure our border? And that wall will be the solution? I think this is just a humane response that is utterly useless in reality.

If we are truly serious about the problem, then don't go wobbly. Notify the proper Mexican officials that parameters are being established and that they will be land mined. I would predict a vast decrease in the desire to cross the border.
1,399 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:36 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Oliver Optic
While we are surrounded by wrist-slitting and anguished cries of betrayal and vows of November punishment .... This thing continues to move in our direction. Unless this is one of those patented Senatorial-procedural-hocus-pocus-thingies ... the Sessions amendment passing is great news!

WOO-HOO! You're right.

The senate is pulling one of those hocus-pocus procedural thangees on Inhofe's amendment. H'es even asked how it happened.

Tony Snow is on FNC channel now.

1,400 posted on 05/17/2006 12:47:49 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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