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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Pukin Dog
"Some of them hung back today, thinking that we still don't know who they are."

Actually a number of them were thumping their chests on a few other threads, albeit not as boisterously as normal. Then there are the few die-hard buchanan patsies who only seem to come on in tandem at odd hours and do their post and run.

1,801 posted on 05/17/2006 2:49:54 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Pukin Dog; George W. Bush
No one that I've seen has assumed your inane, ridiculous straw man that "every single immigrant" to this nation would vote for Democrats. What I've assumed is that new Latino citizens will continue voting much the same way as new Latino citizens vote now, which is upward of 80% in favor of Democrats. What that means, if you take the most modest projections of new citizens that would be imported by GWB's amnesty policies is a minimum net increase of 18 million Democrats.
1,802 posted on 05/17/2006 2:49:58 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
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To: OPS4
It seems the Mods have been lax.

No, just busy.

1,803 posted on 05/17/2006 2:50:21 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Vicomte13
The only way to save the Republican majority in Congress in 2006 is to give the BorderBots their sea-to-sea wall and start visibly throwing it up.

I have very little to add to this thread, but I don't want to see anybody throwing anything up. ;~D

1,804 posted on 05/17/2006 2:50:43 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Lakeshark; nicmarlo

Bravo! Great post, Lakeshark!


1,805 posted on 05/17/2006 2:50:45 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It would be prudent to wait until the General Election before declaring any victory.

While I agree, I can't help but feel encouraged. 8^)

1,806 posted on 05/17/2006 2:51:40 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: Pukin Dog; George W. Bush

And, if that happens, the GOP can write off Texas and Florida for a generation, along with any chance of controlling the Federal government.


1,807 posted on 05/17/2006 2:52:39 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
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To: AntiGuv
No one that I've seen has assumed your inane, ridiculous straw man that "every single immigrant"

It looks like you are getting angry.

Would I like you when you're angry?

Crack open a cold one, and CALM yourself.

1,808 posted on 05/17/2006 2:52:58 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Why would anyone assume that every single immigrant to this nation would vote for Democrats? You are assuming that these people are all greedy villainous thugs seeking handouts?

80% of new Hispanic voters vote Dim. The figures aren't all that good though. I've suspected for some time that many of them aren't voted but their legal status is used by the Dims to cast phony votes. It aids their vote-rigging.
1,809 posted on 05/17/2006 2:53:09 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: AntiGuv

I haven't checked the exit polls from the last election, but 80% sounds very high. That number (and more) is reserved for our African-American friends. I know you put the "new Latino citizens" phrase in your quote, which gives you an out, but I seriously doubt any group votes as monolithically as "the community" .


1,810 posted on 05/17/2006 2:53:41 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: The_Victor
As a matter of fact the Rats and the MSM are lending aid, comfort and talking points to the enemy. They are the most lethal weapon in the terrorists Arsenal.
1,811 posted on 05/17/2006 2:54:04 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Stop whining! Everyone has their own bear to cross.)
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To: Pukin Dog
It seems the Mods have been lax.

No, just busy.

Maybe you should apply for the job. ;^)

1,812 posted on 05/17/2006 2:54:09 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: George W. Bush
In four years, Bush doubled the GOP Hispanic vote. Who is to say that the GOP cannot continue the trend? Anything less then 80% Hispanic and 90% black vote, means that the Democrats LOSE. Can you dig it?

We don't need them all, just the smart ones.

1,813 posted on 05/17/2006 2:55:43 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Warren_Piece

Have you checked the vote returns for the heavily Latino South Texas counties and precincts?? Do it whenever you're ready for a rude awakening..


1,814 posted on 05/17/2006 2:55:57 PM PDT by AntiGuv (How is Mexico our friend?)
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To: airborne
I would have to ban myself for overuse of the word "bitches"
1,815 posted on 05/17/2006 2:56:40 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Godebert

SHOCKED! SHOCKED I AM!

It's just not conducive to the message that too many "conservatives" are trying to convey.


1,816 posted on 05/17/2006 2:57:11 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: Pukin Dog
But I am going to get medieval on the first FReeper who complains about spending if it happens, because that wall will cost some enormous dollars.

Probably $7-$8 billion for a good fence with sensors. Much more for a big wall. Far less than the feds spend on illegals every year. The fence would probably pay for itself the first year as far as the feds go. And even if it didn't, the citizens of the border states deserve the protection of our federal government.
1,817 posted on 05/17/2006 2:57:23 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: yellowdoghunter; pbrown


Reduced to whining about the "unprofessionalism" of the mods.

Here's a clue --- the mods enforce FR rules and stay true to the purpose of FR.


1,818 posted on 05/17/2006 2:57:32 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog
JORGE!
1,819 posted on 05/17/2006 2:57:36 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: trubluolyguy
LOL! Pretty good comparison.

btw, it's nice to be having a pleasant conversation with you.

1,820 posted on 05/17/2006 2:57:41 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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