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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: Toby06

Look, n00b, you've mad wild, spurious claims, argued with the Mods, and tried to take me on. I suggest that you quit, before you are ZOTTED. A Mod has already told you, politely, that you're dead wrong and you're still at it; this time with me. The baiting isn't going to work! All you've managed to do, is out yourself.


2,261 posted on 05/17/2006 7:35:19 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pukin Dog

excellent rant...it's not like were in the middle of a war or something. It's amazing how much people here disrespect the President.


2,262 posted on 05/17/2006 7:35:58 PM PDT by votelife (we need 60 conservative senators)
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To: trussell

His home page is SICK!


2,263 posted on 05/17/2006 7:36:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Tribune7
For all the talk on immigration on FR, I don't hear much of it at the water cooler.

Give rational people a little credit.

After 6 years of unfailing enthusiastic support and camaraderie in celebrating Cinco de Mayo at work, this year it came and went (uncelebrated) without a word being said about it.

Some things, at certain times, are best not discussed at the water cooler.

2,264 posted on 05/17/2006 7:37:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: nopardons

Goodness no.

What a waste. I hate rehashing all that old stuff.

Besides, most of mine is a mishmash at this point since it's been decades since I studied the original docs of the puppet masters' own organizations. Though lot of the stuff on the web is essentially the same thing.

Anyway--happy to let it go. We aren't likely to change one another's minds on it anyway!

So I just love you as you are and learn what I can from you.

LUB
Heading to bed shortly.


2,265 posted on 05/17/2006 7:39:40 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Left2Right
Oh, for goodness sake, Toby is not a troll.

And I do know that for a fact.

2,266 posted on 05/17/2006 7:40:40 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: nopardons

please indicate wherein I tried to take you on? I have big shoulders, but I'd bet you are "way too much of a man" for me to shoulder.

I apologized to the mod for my claim, which may be spurious becaus it is hearsay, but is hardly wild.

Thanks for the lovely suggestions.It's time for a nice drink and a cigar, I do say.


2,267 posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:20 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: nopardons

did you notice the last line in my homepage is a quote from GWB's state of the union address, puth there within 24 hours of it's utterance at said speech?


2,268 posted on 05/17/2006 7:44:50 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: nopardons
No. I support the GOP on principle, and vote primary for the person that is most pro-life, pro-gun. That is a rule.

During the general election, if the republican is electable without me, I vote for the individual that is most pro-life, and pro-gun. If the issue is questionable.... I vote party to keep away from the dims. That is a rule.

I work for the GOP for groundwork during both elections. Because they are better than the alternative. That is a rule.

I have rule-sets that determine what I do. And they are based on pro-life, pro-gun.

I could draw a NAND circuit diagram showing the logic. But some people don't understand logic. Or even know who Aristotle was....

/johnny

2,269 posted on 05/17/2006 7:46:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: AntiGuv
1 Starr County TX: 86.94% Clinton; 10.41% Dole

Great finds there. I'd like to find more comprehensive info, both national and by states/counties for multiple elections. Can't seem to find it.
2,270 posted on 05/17/2006 7:46:52 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Glenn; All

"... it's really okay to be pissed off at your reps ..."

YES IT IS - and to be THE MOST EFFECTIVE with your comments - CALL YOUR REPS LOCAL OFFICE - it works everytime.

Again - follow Pukin's comments - be respectful. Don't call them names. Speak your mind in a controlled and meaningful manner. Do not yell and carry on like a crazy person - even if inside you are ready to punch their lights out. And .. remember this too .. the person answering the phone is probably a volunteer so please don't do anything to cause them to discount your comments - such as throwing the info in the trash. Hmmmm??


2,271 posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:20 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Pukin Dog

A most excellent rant.

Back in the way back when I had a patch on my jeans that said, "If you're not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem."

When we sit here and get frustrated and start raling away at "They," I have discovered it's really time to do something myself. It may mean getting involved at the grass roots to throw the bums who are too RINOy out. It may mean encouraging people to get out and vote. It may mean doing one's homework.

But it should never mean dropping a 20 lb. bowling ball on my foot because I am throwing a temper tantrum in my frustration, or cutting my nose off to spite my face.

And it's always better to have a half filled cup than an empty one.

And Rome wasn't built in a day, and all those other platitudes which are old and trite and true.

So I will not pour fuel on the fire, but I will say one step at a time, and if we take enough steps in the right direction, we might just end up at our destination. But we won't if we circle around backwards. Or if we stop moving.

IMHO, of course.


2,272 posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:29 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nopardons

It's an attempt at humor...I'm sorry you can't see that. Please know he is not a troll...he is a friend, and I would hate to see him banned because you didn't agree with his style. I thought part of being a conservative meant you were able to be an individual with your own freedom of thought


2,273 posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:38 PM PDT by trussell (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Quix
That's okay...we'll just let sleeping dogs lie.

Good night, my FRiend; pleasant dreams.

2,274 posted on 05/17/2006 7:49:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: do the dhue
I'm trying to be as clear as I can, and speak right from my heart. I do not understand why so many people are not seeing the forest for the trees.

The people at the top of the Republican Party, and Demonrat Party are globalists. The only argument between them is which way to jump, into the E.U. or to create a united Western Hemisphere.

This is not some secret plot, some tin foil hat theory, they have come right out with their plans for all to see. We can quote them, they are not hiding it, but they are also not "defining it" or what it's implementation actually means.

What has them sweating bullets right now is that the issue of illegal immigration and it's future implications for the continuing sovereignty of this nation and it's sovereign documents such as the Constitution, has united both democrat and republican bases in fear and dread of this Senate bill.

They are not sure of what our reaction will be. They are not really sweating us giving the Republican Party a royal paddling at the polls. The Republican elites are only worried about the defeat of their "Western Hemisphere" plans by having the ball thrown to the "Unite with the E.U." crowd known as demonrats.

Meanwhile the average joe is so scared spitless to face reality that he shuts his eyes tight and hides under the bed hoping if he just keeps from facing the monster it will go away. It ain't going away. Not for the Demonrat base or the Republican base.

So while these parties keep making noises and offering less than useless solutions that eventually get them what they are really after, we keep pretending they are sincere efforts made by less than bright politicians trying to walk a international and political tight rope. When the only tight rope both parties are walking is how to romance your sovereign nationhood out from under you. Placing Constitutional law in a useless position behind international and trade laws. The Supreme Court makes no secret that they are busy studying international law and where and how it will conflict with Constitutional law. If there is a conflict between the two guess which loses? Our Founding Fathers recognized this and warned us that we could and would lose our freedoms if we joined in entangling international treaties that would trump the Constitution.

And what's worse, some on this site fully understand what's up and think it's a great economic idea. To hell with nationhood and Constitutional protections when there is a profit to be made. In God We Trust? Heck no, not for them, for them it's "In the appointed board of directors we trust", for our human rights, our economic wealth, and our future.

I wish with all my heart that I was wrong, but I'm not. Some how, some way, we must take the reins of the Party from the hands of the globalists, both parties need to seek that same effort, that is where our focus needs to be if we are to stand any chance at all.

2,275 posted on 05/17/2006 7:49:22 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Toby06
did you notice the last line in my homepage...

Your homepage is a hoot. But not to politically correct nanny types.
2,276 posted on 05/17/2006 7:50:43 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: CyberAnt
and to be THE MOST EFFECTIVE with your comments

Call your county party rep. They are the ones that suffer if you don't pay up, and they HAVE the ear of the elected official.

/johnny

2,277 posted on 05/17/2006 7:51:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: NinoFan
Most of the Bushbots here fail to realize the importance of immigration. It truly is unlike any other issue of the day.

This has been my position as long as I can remember. It is self-evident to me. Temporary victories (in the historic long term) are all totally useless and irrelevant if the value of legitimate citizen ballots is watered down or eliminated.

Yes, that includes homeland security, all the rights in the BOR, the WOT and anything else you care to name.

The muslims, certainly, and the illegal mexicans, increasingly are absolutely convinced that they can and should restructure our Constitutional Representative Republic to their own image through the ballot box.

And our political and judicial system is incrementally and increasingly allowing them to.
We can continue ignoring that at our own peril.

2,278 posted on 05/17/2006 7:51:38 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Pukin Dog
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections.

Bear in mind please that the President does not agree with us on that. We tried it in Pennslyvania and the President campaigned for Specter. We are trying it now in RI and the RNC is working against us. You are right in theory, but it is not workable in practive because the party itself is against us. What are we left to do? (All that being said, I appreciate your post even though I don't totally agree with it).

2,279 posted on 05/17/2006 7:52:04 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Tribune7
For all the talk on immigration on FR, I don't hear much of it at the water cooler.

Three weeks ago, I would have agreed with you, but this weekend, it seemed to be THE social topic of conversation. No one is mentioning it at work, though, because NO ONE wants to be sent back to diversity school.

2,280 posted on 05/17/2006 7:52:09 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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