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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you! I've been increasingly annoyed with the division and the attitude among some that we ought to volunteer to put the Marxists in office for a time because we didn't get, to borrow your metaphor, steak without a sprig of parsley.


141 posted on 05/17/2006 8:35:04 AM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: karnage; Pukin Dog
The endless Bush-bashing and relentless negativism are draining

The negative energy on FR is suffocating. Frankly, I try to ignore it. The naysayers come out every election season like mold after a wet winter. They may represent 20-25% of FR, and are therefore a pesky nuisance here, but in the general electorate, I bet their percentage is more like 0.5%.

Sure, illegal immigration is a problem. Yes, gun ownership is a constitutional right. Agreed that our government is too big, even under Republican control. But single-issue zealots never won an election. Regardless of these issues, there are a whole lot of other fish to fry...the courts, for instance; the WOT, as an example; the economy, to mention another/ The inherent moral corruption of the Democrats should be enough to motivate anyone to vote Republican. Conservativism needs to be big-picture oriented.

142 posted on 05/17/2006 8:35:06 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: All
No one should take away from this rant that I don't think we all have the right to criticize Bush or anyone else. This rant is about remembering respect, and maybe trying a bit of humor, instead of the more hateful stuff that detracts from the seriousness of our mission.

Does anyone believe that our counterparts on the left would not be more effective if they were not such hateful little bastards with their constant negativity? Most of America just tunes them out because they cant stand the hate.

Criticizing Bush wont put you on my troll list. Disrespecting the office of the President of the United States will.

143 posted on 05/17/2006 8:35:07 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
9 out of 10 times - I do not jump into the immigration threads. Just reading keeps my hair on fire. However, there have been those (and you know who you are) that have been in there day after day repelling those who slander our President, his Lady, our country in general AND leading less thoughtful FReepers into their boiling pot. I salute these FReepers who have been fighting against this hostile takeover of the forum and I will try to be more involved in these uh...discussions which at times seem fruitless because you rarely get back anything but repeated hostility. They have a narrow agenda.

Thank you as always for the timely rant.

PS: See my tag line for the last several months.

144 posted on 05/17/2006 8:35:36 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: Pukin Dog

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Massachusetts resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
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VERY EXCELLENT POINTS! THANKS. I couldn't even find anything to quibble with. Shocking.

--Qx w a broked puter still borrowing JM's


145 posted on 05/17/2006 8:35:40 AM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: Lead Moderator
Thank you!
146 posted on 05/17/2006 8:36:24 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
I agree with the need to challenge republicans in their primaries. Club For Growth s the best organization that is doing that.
147 posted on 05/17/2006 8:36:29 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/gasoline_and_government.htm)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thank-you for your post, This site was starting to really get me down. We have to remember not to throw the baby out with the bathwater, or the republic party will be sunk in Nov. I really believe we have alot of trolls on this board trying to divide us!
148 posted on 05/17/2006 8:36:58 AM PDT by jmj3jude
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To: Pukin Dog

Mega dittos, Pukin!


149 posted on 05/17/2006 8:37:24 AM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: Constitution Day

That is not what it's about and you know it. I don't disagree with general frustration on immigration that's expressed here, didn't like the "port deal" in any way, and I wasn't thrilled with Miers. The difference is, I won't tolerate the extreme Bush-hatred that goes on. There is no one who either posed or poses anywhere near an acceptable alternative, and when I think of all the positives of this administration, perspective rules the day.


150 posted on 05/17/2006 8:37:53 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: woofie

As big as this site is its a drop in the political bucket ...
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To paraphrase . . .

It's not the size of the site with a fire but the size of the fire in the site that matters.

FREEPERS HAVE CHANGED the political scene in a variety of ways from Dillbo's impeachment on--regardless of our size. It's shocking you'd seemingly fail to know or acknowledge that.

Besides, in any complex system, the smallest part can change the whole system. You ever had a problem with your little toe nail?

Certainly we should relate to each other with good humor. I don't see any need to attack one another at all.

--Qx borrowing JM's puter


151 posted on 05/17/2006 8:39:05 AM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: NinoFan
I will, under my new resolve, not let your post stand. First of all, the Miers debacle is OVER. Alito is the Justice, and you are still nursing a grudge over that?

This illustrates the point made above that if President Bush did every darn thing you wanted tomorrow, you would STILL be unhappy because he didn't agree with you from Day 1. Knock it off. Miers isn't going to be on the Supreme Court, and nursing that grudge is the action of a petty Bush-hater.

Second, Laura Bush did NOT call you sexist. She was asked if there "was an element of sexism in the opposition" and she said "probably." Well guess what? There WAS an element of sexism, and anyone who read all the stuff on this forum and from some of the pundits should realize it. Go back and read David Frum's malicious posts on National Review if you are unaware of this element of the controversy. It wasn't the major portion, but some of it was still there.

I will NOT be silent any more when people whine about this and refuse to note all of the good things President Bush has done. Where were you when the entire media and most of the Congress was blaming him for the Katrina disaster, when anyone who paid attention knew it was Blanco and Nagin who caused the problem? Have you defended him when the entire force of the media has been brought to bear on him, charging him with lying to get us into war? Probably not.

So excuse me if Laura Bush hurt your feelings with her mild comment. Perhaps you would like to return to the days when we had Hillary as first lady. She was SO much kinder, wasn't she?

Feh!

152 posted on 05/17/2006 8:39:05 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Vicomte13
Now do you feel better after that pity party?

I hope so.

153 posted on 05/17/2006 8:39:22 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
They may represent 20-25% of FR, and are therefore a pesky nuisance here, but in the general electorate, I bet their percentage is more like 0.5%.

For all the talk on immigration on FR, I don't hear much of it at the water cooler.

154 posted on 05/17/2006 8:39:39 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Glenn

Well said.


155 posted on 05/17/2006 8:39:45 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Great Rant PD, it needed to be said


156 posted on 05/17/2006 8:40:04 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

So true! There is not one issue, not a single issue, where the Republican Party is more in the wrong than the Democratic Party. The time to fight against incumbent Republicans is during primaries like Toomey vs. Spector.


157 posted on 05/17/2006 8:40:28 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Pukin Dog

Great essay!!!! I agree and will also challenge any that disrespect this president.

Time to get serious about preventing the dems or even our misguided from trying to destroy us from within.

I would not be surprised if many of the freepers here are plants to do that very thing - everyday find something the president did that they claim they did not like, and rant and rave about it to make others join them in the disrespect and destroy the GOP from within.

Afterall - the libs have done far worse to destroy him - why not pretend to be a freeper and disrespect the president and find fault. I feel sure they are doing that.


158 posted on 05/17/2006 8:41:05 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Is the primary goal of our Congress to protect America's borders?)
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To: Pukin Dog

Great thoughtful post. The thing that bugs me is the lack of proportion and comparative analysis in this debate. A person is smart but people can be quite dumn. This is why the founders were wise in not allowing for pure democracy or mob rule.


159 posted on 05/17/2006 8:41:42 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Leatherneck_MT
I won't sit out the election, but I also will not just willy nilly vote for anyone with an R by their name.

Then you will elevate Pelosi to speaker and Conyers to Chairman of the Judiciary Committee among other horrors.


160 posted on 05/17/2006 8:41:48 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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