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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Rokke

Excellent analysis, Rokke. I couldn't agree more.


2,541 posted on 05/17/2006 10:28:26 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: feinswinesuksass

Then I apologize. I was raised never to disrespect women no matter what. If you are a woman then I will allow Nopardons to tear your head off.


2,542 posted on 05/17/2006 10:28:45 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Pukin Dog
When I thought you were a guy, I thought the image was silly. Since you now say you are a woman, I think the image is sad. You really should call it a night.

Pardon me, but what difference does it make if the person who posted that was a man or a woman?
2,543 posted on 05/17/2006 10:28:46 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: feinswinesuksass

No .. but it would be nice if you could grow up


2,544 posted on 05/17/2006 10:29:43 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: pollyannaish
Gotta ask—is this what you expected when you posted this morning and is it a PD Rant record yet?

No way. What I expected, was that after some discussion about cleaning up our act around here, a few trolls would come out to play with me. All that happened, but I thought it would take place in 50-60 posts. This is a crazy thread.

2,545 posted on 05/17/2006 10:29:58 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: feinswinesuksass

You need psychiatric help and quickly; not to mention your mouth washed out with soap.


2,546 posted on 05/17/2006 10:29:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pukin Dog

"Or would you like to take back your personal attack?"

Just how is that statement a personal attack?


2,547 posted on 05/17/2006 10:30:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you.


2,548 posted on 05/17/2006 10:30:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: feinswinesuksass
You may be a woman but your behavior on this thread has fallen somewhat short of Lady.
2,549 posted on 05/17/2006 10:31:07 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Texasforever
Oh, so you have a double standard. What a shock.
A man can post something & it is just silly...a woman posts it & it is sad.

You are no gentleman, you are patronizing and possibly a chauvinist.
2,550 posted on 05/17/2006 10:31:29 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: NinoFan; feinswinesuksass
Pardon me, but what difference does it make if the person who posted that was a man or a woman?

A women with and class would not have posted what she just did

It was uncalled for and out of line

2,551 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:03 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: nopardons

I have posted no profanity at all....


2,552 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:09 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: Pukin Dog
I keep trying to remind other Republicans/Conservatives that if we don't show up to the polls in November, that we are to blame if the government and power is handed back to the traitorous Liberals/Democrats and all of our hard work and accomplishments have gone to waste.
I don't care how much others complain about the disappointment in politicians in our own party , the alternative is a worse scenario.
Disappointments should not keep us from moving on and seeing the higher goal or objective.
2,553 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:21 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Pukin Dog; Rokke

BUMP!
Rokke's one of America's finest!


2,554 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:40 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: bray

You are right.

It is not that Bush makes a mistake just that he does not act as their personal agent in charge of the U.S.

Some people never bother to think how their plan would work in reality. So very easy to just demand when you do not have to answer for the consequences. And even easier then to trash the president and take away your vote because your stupid (XXXXX) suggestion was not latched onto by their "agent in charge of the U.S." for action.

Gee, we can't shoot all illegals? Why not? We can't mount an army on the border without funds? Why not?

We can't send a man back to Mexico and leave his American children here with no one to feed them? Why not? He is illegal - just handle it, handle it.

Or just move them all back. Pack those babies up and cart them back, no job, no food, no home - but hey? What the heck.

Or, we don't want any form of mass id but you find all those illegals and cart them back. No new worker program with an issued card, but the employer must know who is legal or illegal.

No new process to handle the illegals here that will give them the incentive to come forward and become a guest worker with background info but you find them.

Or - plug the border but ignore the ones here illegal and give them no reason to come forward to work out of their situation so that we can identify who is here and find out about them. No, we can't provide any incentive to get them out of their situation - we just have to manually go hunt them up. All of this with no new funds or spending.

Afterall, we wanted a small government - not a big spender.

See - no rational thinking through of the problems encountered - just orders to the President. And, his efforts to find workable ways to give them what they want are met with just more "teach the gop a lesson" trash.


2,555 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:47 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: NinoFan
Pardon me, but what difference does it make if the person who posted that was a man or a woman?

I make no bones about the fact that I am a traditionalist. I expect men to go off the deep end, but not women. Maybe it says more about me then the poster? I've never equated vulgarity with females.

2,556 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:53 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: feinswinesuksass
You are no gentleman, you are patronizing and possibly a chauvinist.

Thank you Gloria.

2,557 posted on 05/17/2006 10:33:17 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Mo1

grrr

with and = with any


2,558 posted on 05/17/2006 10:33:25 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: feinswinesuksass

Hi feinswinesuksass,How are you.This is a long thread..


2,559 posted on 05/17/2006 10:33:38 PM PDT by fatima (Kathy in Alaska is the best.)
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To: pollyannaish

ROTFLOL...yes, "something". :-)


2,560 posted on 05/17/2006 10:33:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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