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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Pukin Dog

It becomes a mute point, when our elected officials give us nothing to motivate the base voters, let alone try to reach out to those otherwise open to voting Republican based on our conservative principals. "Get out the vote" means nothing when our officials cheapen our Party's principled platform. Republican strength is that people believe that we standing for something; the Democrats just have to promise to care to drive out their voters.


2,581 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:57 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: feinswinesuksass; nopardons
Besides the Puking Dog gif which was immediately removed, please detail my offense that you deem worthy of a mouth washing.

It wasn't a 'pukin dog' gif. Frankly, I am surprised a woman would post the 'gif' you posted. I figured you for a man.

2,582 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:26 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog

If tomorrow is as successful as it was today...you'll need a bigger boat.

Sleep well.


2,583 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:29 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: nopardons

Hey nopardons. I've been doing well. My boy got involved with Civil Air Patrol and that took away my freepin time. Which I supposed worked out.

I wasn't pleased with the direction the GOP was going and got tired of carping on it. The dems do what they do so well--point fingers and yell loudly getting nothing done.

I'm Back. I hope for awhile.


2,584 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:49 PM PDT by swheats
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To: onyx

Hey onyx - I trust ya!

Yikes.

Some others, too.

I really blame myself in trusting some others, though.


2,585 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:22 PM PDT by JLO (www.operationmnnice.com)
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To: Miss Marple
Since when are accusing someone of being a traitor or being in the pay of a foreign organization the only ways to be disrespectful of someone? (I'm not calling anyone a traitor, but for argument's sake, I don't regard accusing a traitor of being a traitor as an act of disrespect; rather, it's an act of lucidity and often an act of courage.)

You may have succeeded in beating the Sloth into submission (Islam anyone?), but allow me to suggest that being told by anyone that, for examples: (1) amnesty isn't amnesty, (2) our country of predominantly native born is actually a country of immigrants, and (3) the strongest nation on earth can't deport all illegal aliens is enough to offend me.

I eagerly voted for Bush twice. Yes, I knew he voiced a liberal pro-illegal alien position at both times, but please don't blame me for hoping that he'd see the conservative light when it come decision time. I'm very disappointed and my outlook for the 'Icans is right now bleak. Perhaps what I need to do is print out the list of Bush's accomplishments on Pukin Dog's homepage and leave copies of it laying around so I can peruse it often to get my spirits up.

I hold out some hope--not a lot--that the House may yet save the day. I do think no bill on illegal aliens is better than a bad bill. From what I can see, you can't go wrong pushing the House bill when the country--including 'Icans, 'Rats, and Hispanics--are all behind it. Bush himself has told us that he'll toe the conservative line if the conservative base gets riled enough to insist on it. I shudder to think of what we might be losing by silencing ourselves.

A return to honor--sure. But censorship, even in the name of conservatism, is not honorable.

2,586 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:22 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Enhance Capitol security: Censure Cynthia!)
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To: NinoFan

If you saw the 'gif' then I am surprised you'd ask such a question. I was shocked to learn the gender of the poster.


2,587 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:40 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: NinoFan

It does for me
That post was out of line


2,588 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:53 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Vicomte13

Minimum standards bump.


2,589 posted on 05/17/2006 10:46:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: nopardons
Oh puleeze....I am such a FEMINAZI.
Do you base on that brilliant deduction upon my use of the word CHAUVENIST?

Wow, you got me....I am coming out of the closet....I am woman hear me roar.
2,590 posted on 05/17/2006 10:46:38 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: JLO

:)


2,591 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:01 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: swheats

Hiya there swheats


2,592 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:35 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: NinoFan
Oh geezzzz.

Listen, dear. I am a former Navy Commander. I have ordered more men to "call it a night" then I can count. Something about mandatory rest before flying? It is a phrase, not a comment denoting how I feel about women, ok?

No one should doubt my love for the female form, if not always the female psyche, but I don't feel superior. Why do I picture you living in Berkeley and eating wheat grass in between poetry readings?

2,593 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:37 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

If you're going to repeat the sentence, repeat the whole thing:

"That you were heading toward trying to taint someone for knowing former FReepers who have been banned, for whatever reason (and I'm not going to be drawn into any debate about the ins and outs of moderating a thread) says to me that you're not involved in anything other than being a keyboard jockey on the FR boards."

Heck, I went to college with the guy who asked Jim Robinson to suspend him upthread, and was granted his wish. He lost his cool, but he's no troll. He was fairly involved. I can't pretend to understand his actions today, other than frustration.


2,594 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:47 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: feinswinesuksass
Stop lying and stop trying to play the victim! I didn't say that you posted profanity. What I said, was that your post was vile and disgusting and it was. It was also uncalled for, a blatant personal attack on me, for absolutely no reason, whatsoever, and childish to boot.

Your dog post to Puckin Dog was likewise insulting, vile, disgusting, classless, unfunny, and beneath contempt.

You came onto this post to incite a flame war.

You've added nothing of value to it.

OTOH, a lot of people who were unfamiliar with you, have now been enlightened to exactly what and who you are, by your own words and actions...CONGRATULATIONS on doing such a spectacular job of that! ;^)

2,595 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: onyx

Oh, it was offensive, no doubt. But I would have found it equally offensive if a man had posted it, to tell you the truth. And no, I don't believe men and women are equal in every way (especially when it comes to matters of biological fact, such as muscle), but women posting such things doesn't bother me more than men posting them.


2,596 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:54 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: onyx

Yeah, it would be really tough to figure out my sex.....all you'd have to do is click on my screen name.


2,597 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:58 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Spot on! :-)


2,598 posted on 05/17/2006 10:48:27 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson

:)


2,599 posted on 05/17/2006 10:48:51 PM PDT by fatima (Kathy in Alaska is the best.)
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To: pollyannaish
Thanks, Polly.

Sometimes I wish your handle was Polly-purebread, so you could call me UnderDog. LOL.

Sometimes I crack myself up.

Goodnight.
2,600 posted on 05/17/2006 10:49:31 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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