Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
"Twenty percent of Nashville is Illegals? Sorry don't buy it."
Five percent of NC. Over eight million population, over 400,000 illegal aliens, and more every day.
I'm not supporting third party candidates. I am supporting the GOP House members who are opposed to Bush regarding his immigration agenda. You know, the guys actually facing an election this fall, unlike Bush.
The election this fall is no more a secret then the agenda of those trying to drive a wedge into Republican/Conservative voters.
Generic "support" is one thing. If your specific GOP Congressman votes for the compromise Senate / House bill, will you vote for him or her in November?
The stridency and venom began years before this legislation was written, though I agree the president should be demanding specific changes to the Senate plan to bring it in line with the house plan. Try again.
July 20, 2005
By Taft Wireback
Greensboro News and Record
They are licenses given by North Carolina to illegal immigrants who live in New Jersey but who come to the Tar Heel State by the busload or vanload to get the document that allows them to drive, work, bank and rent housing, said Sonia Barria, the court administrator for the town of Dover, N.J.
"We ask them. We speak Spanish and we ask them, 'How did you get a license?' " Barria said in a phone interview last week. "They say, 'We went on a bus with a group of people and that is how it happened.' "
Her court confiscates North Carolina licenses from illegal immigrants under the theory "they were probably obtained under false pretenses," said Barria, whose town has 15,115 residents and covers 2 square miles in Morris County.
I love jellybeans...all but the clove ones; they're so strong they make all the other flavors nearby taste like cloves no matter what flavor they're supposed to be. The really good black licorice ones do that too...though I like those bought plain, in a seperate bag.
Differences of opinion about Terri's condition did not bother me but when I was accused of having no compassion and no heart by those without a clue as to my personal history by people threatening Michael Schiavo, the judge and the doctors it became too much. T
hey did not know that I had only a couple of years before lost my beloved and beautiful wife at the age of 43 being sustained since only by faith in God and our wonderful sons.
They did not know of the fountains of tears shed and the fruitless search to cure her even to the point of pouring money into cures even quacks would not promote grasping at every straw. Yet, I was part of the Culture of Death who cared not for the afflicted and the impaired.
It was then that I realized just what a threat to FR such people are and how I must do everything I could to make sure they were confronted at every point. This site is simply too important to allow it to be taken over by fanatics and frauds.
I've often thought that we should have a single "true believers vs pragmatists" thread, where we could plug in the issue of the day. It would be over a milion posts by now. Mostly "RINO!" "Unappeasable!" it's funny that no matter what the issue, we always seem to break into the same camps.
So having gotten mauled over your attempts to say people on my side of this issue cannot win elections, you now must attack my credibility, Mr. Civility? I voted for Bush twice. Got out in 2000 in Colorado in the protests when Gore tried to steal the election.
The election this fall is no more a secret then the agenda of those trying to drive a wedge into Republican/Conservative voters.
I hate to tell you this, since you clearly have either an aversion to or an allergic reaction in response to reality, but Bush is not running for re-election ever again. The House GOP members are. And Bush's demand for a guest worker program before the borders are secure is hurting their chances. Polls repeatedly show this. Polls also show GOP voters are against Bush on this issue, 52-40. Pollss on FR from members echo this, as well as posts from long-time posters who have steadfastly supported Bush on matters such as Iraq and the WOT. History shows Bush's stance here is a bad idea.
So tell me, who is driving the wedge here? My side? Or Bush's bullheaded determination to get his immigration agenda through, even if he has to get Dems and RINOs to pass it over the votes of conservative legislators?
Bush brought that on himself with not being serious about enforcement. But the rhetoric clearly escalated once the legislative process started.
I agree the president should be demanding specific changes to the Senate plan to bring it in line with the house plan.
Instead, he is counting on Dems and RINOs to override conservatives. Go figure.
Good idea and letter. Thanks.
BUMP! Why is it anyone trying to bring the debate back into debate mode gets slammed on by both sides?
PK- nice rant. But I don't think the typeface you used was around in 1972....
I munched a couple and couldn't figure out what they were...crunchy, slightly bitter and good.
Next thing I know it's 5:30 in the morning and the wife is wondering why I'd never gone to bed and who ate all the chocolate covered espresso beans. I was good all day.
I would have to weigh other factors - I do not see it as an automatic disqualifier. For example, I refuse to vote for one of my GOP Senators, Arlen Specter. I will grudgingly vote for Santorum, even though he has not been the steadfast conservative he makes himself out to be.
LOL! Mauled? You sound like a hyper lap dog that thinks it's a pit pull. Yapping, snapping at ankles and tinkling on the floor in excitment aren't exactly mauling actions.
I meant PD.
Yes, mauled. You swung twice and missed both times. My side of this issue includes the vast majority of the House GOP. You know, the guys running for re-election this year.
So much for your attempts to claim that my side is a bunch of one-percenters.
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