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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Lekker 1; ohioWfan; BigSkyFreeper
Is there some kind of implication that the great unwashed '04-or-later Freepers are somehow defective? Sounds a little elitest.

We were infiltrated in '04 and that is a fact.

321 posted on 05/17/2006 9:21:35 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you for the inspiration! So many times I have almost given up on this place, it's things like this that remind me of why I stay.


322 posted on 05/17/2006 9:21:45 AM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: pissant

So, you are not a republican - that explains why you desire to destroy from within. And, you are a believer that the only way to "teach" republicans is to make them lose.

Well - you apparently are on the wrong forum and I suggest you might be a lot happier with other non-GOP, non-conservative voters.

Because here - we will fight your view.


324 posted on 05/17/2006 9:21:51 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Is the primary goal of our Congress to protect America's borders?)
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To: trubluolyguy

We need more important threads like this in breaking news and less silly and useless threads like "Oil pipeline has exploded in Nigeria (200 feared dead)". I mean, who cares about that crap happening halfway around the world when we have more important and urgent events coming directly from someone's mind?


325 posted on 05/17/2006 9:21:51 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Pukin Dog

Outstanding post, very well articulated, P.D.


326 posted on 05/17/2006 9:22:09 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Protagoras
HAR! You know the answer too.
327 posted on 05/17/2006 9:22:27 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog

That's it - let's stay the course - some mishaps will happen, but for a minority, conservatives are doing very, very well - jump ship on the Republicans now and it will be a giant step back.


328 posted on 05/17/2006 9:22:35 AM PDT by Sonora
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To: soccer8

Forgot something - Besides being a delegate etc, run for office! Whether a party office or state/federal elected office all help.


329 posted on 05/17/2006 9:22:48 AM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Vicomte13
V, I love your posts ... but I'm not as certain as you are that chastened Republicans will come back after a defeat with a conservative agenda and a big fence.

It's just as likely they will conclude they lost because Iraq is not going well and gas prices are too high.

They may even conclude that the House anti-illegals stance cost them too many Latino votes.

I'd hate to hand the Speaker's gavel to Pelosi, give up our imminent victory in the courts, and embolden the Democrat party for years to come ... just to "send a message" that never got there anyway.

330 posted on 05/17/2006 9:22:57 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Sir Gawain

I find it entertaining....:)


331 posted on 05/17/2006 9:23:05 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: NinoFan
I believe that is because for some of you, there is no history of any positive comments to balance the negativity. I have challenged some I suspected of trolling to offer me a positive comment about Bush. Most of the time, they seem to have great difficulty finding anything good to say about the man. I would advise all those who suspect someone to be a troll to take a look at their posting history before making an accusation.
332 posted on 05/17/2006 9:23:08 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: OldFriend

Amen.


333 posted on 05/17/2006 9:23:26 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: onyx; Vicomte13
So you paste in, for us, the well-know statement from our founder.

And do you see your role as an enforcer who is authorized to determine when a poster violates the spirit of the founder's direction and to mug him with words like "useless" and "insane" and to imply his lack of patriotism because there is no state flag on his profile page? Is this your contribution?

Vicomte13, who needs no assistance from me in his defense, may be wrongheaded in many of his posts. But he is a particularly erudite, careful, and unfailingly polite poster who, IMO, makes a valuable contribution.

And your contribution is to mug him?

Your behavior, and others like you, is what makes me question how much I want to participate here.

334 posted on 05/17/2006 9:23:41 AM PDT by LK44-40
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To: NinoFan
You seem to be suffering from some sort of guilt complex, Nino. No one has ever said that opposing amnesty makes one a Dem mole. Not even close. (I oppose amnesty too).

But your protesting an accusation that doesn't exist did give you an opportunity to slander Bush supporters and call us names, now didn't it?

335 posted on 05/17/2006 9:23:41 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Well, no, see here's the thing. If we dare go against the almighty pukin, we get suspended. Just ask Sir Gawain.

You apparently forbid us from disagreeing with him.


336 posted on 05/17/2006 9:23:54 AM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: OldFriend


What you said BTTT!


337 posted on 05/17/2006 9:24:19 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent and thank you for bringing up the First Lady because that yesterday was the most pathetic display I'd seen on FR, ever.


338 posted on 05/17/2006 9:24:49 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn,...

You just had to make it all about illegal immigration didn't you.
You were doing so well there for a few moments.

;^) Great rant PD!

339 posted on 05/17/2006 9:24:57 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: onyx
Why would you even wonder about that, Lucy? I'm a Bush-Bot, but disagree with President Bush regarding the illegal invasion.

Perhaps because most of us who vocalize our displeasure are being called traitors and Democrat operatives. You are now attacking those who have only been members since '04.
340 posted on 05/17/2006 9:24:57 AM PDT by NinoFan
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