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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: nopardons; CWOJackson

Newbies! ;o)


3,261 posted on 05/18/2006 7:01:27 PM PDT by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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To: A CA Guy
Like you, I'll never forget it. I have the list of the RINOS that voted for this Trojan Horse. If I ever get a chance to talk someone out of voting for one of them, I'll make my best effort to do it.

Amnesty for illegals and the reward of social security while being allowed to make up employment, earned wages and such is ridiculous.

I get the impression this is an overvalued bargaining chip with throwaways. A Devil's bargain it I ever saw one.

I would not bargain at all, if I were to lead the House; I'd just shred it and add a few amendments to the already existing law and send a writ of mandamus to the president, calling for him to execute the law of the land.

But, then, I'm not a professional politician where the good of the my country is just one consideration in building my career.

3,262 posted on 05/18/2006 7:01:42 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: A CA Guy
I have a question. why did you post that picture? Is it because President Bush is with a mariachi band? Is this supposed to prove something?

Do you think all of those people pictured with the President are illegal immigrants? I don't think that is very likely. They are probably Americans of Mexican descent, like a good portion of the citizens of the southwest.

So, explain to me the significance of the picture. Is it that you don't like mariachi music? You don't like anyone who is of Mexican heritage? You don't like the President? You are incensed by sombreros?

A little clarification would be appreciated.

3,263 posted on 05/18/2006 7:02:27 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: CWOJackson
Ah, why shouldn't I try to divine it? It's my duty to take the measure of the man; he is the chief executive of a democratic republic, every policy of which affects me, and you.

You really have no private opinion on whether he would sign it as is? What harm if you did; you expressing you opinion on FR would hardly influence his decision.

3,264 posted on 05/18/2006 7:09:59 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Miss Marple

I liked the photo myself. Maybe it's from spending so much of my childhood overseas, or my interest in different cultures...but I would have loved to been where the photo was taken to experience it.


3,265 posted on 05/18/2006 7:11:16 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

"And while the immigration debate raged on:
TODAY - WASHINGTON - The House rejected an attempt Thursday to lift a quarter-century congressional ban on offshore oil drilling in coastal waters outside the western Gulf of Mexico amid arguments that new supplies are needed to lower energy prices."

Yep.
And you know what, Warrant?
I'm sitting here in Connecticut, with Chris Shays, "R" as my representative, who's got to be one of the worst liberals in the Republican caucus. But as the incumbent, he's essentially unopposed on the Republican side.

The Democrats have dished up a woman who's just as liberal.

And my choices for Senate? Some liberal Republican or Joe Lieberman.

It makes it really hard to get out there and cast that caucus vote, really, really hard. But when absolutely NOBODY on the ballot, on any side, represents you on much of anything, what the hell can you do?

My solution has been to vote for the liberal Republican to try and give the caucus one more seat, even though the liberal Republican sitting in it is going to do things like vote against ANWR.

Shays always runs very close, and this year he needs the vote of people like me more than ever. It's very hard.


3,266 posted on 05/18/2006 7:13:14 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: William Terrell
"Ah, why shouldn't I try to divine it?"

LOL! Devine away for yourself...I'm sure your personal agenda will not cloud your findings in any way. I understand Rosanne Barr has finally conquered her anorexia now and is to be named Miss Virginia.

3,267 posted on 05/18/2006 7:13:16 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Vicomte13

I'm far more fortunate. I have Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell for Senators.


3,268 posted on 05/18/2006 7:14:50 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Miss Marple
I posted it because I think if we let all these illegals and their relatives in, the studies show we will get 200 million more people in and they will not love America. They will not especially hire often white or black or Asian Americans if they start businesses. They are a pretty closed society and IMO you could see them get English banned from this country eventually and it will be required we sing the Spanish American Anthem at that time in Spanish with Mariachi, thus the picture.

I see it going that way since we could get 250 million Hispanics as new citizens in the next 20 years under the Senate plans.

3,269 posted on 05/18/2006 7:15:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CWOJackson

Wow, what a coincidence. Me too. ; ).


3,270 posted on 05/18/2006 7:17:24 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Lakeshark
Here is a more excellent synopsis:

May 18, 2006

New Column: Immigration: At The Tipping Point

By David Limbaugh

Political commentators -- both right and left -- who think the outrage over the immigration crisis is a conservative fringe phenomenon are sorely out of touch. That may have been true some time ago, but the sleeping giant of American goodwill and apathy has finally been jolted out of her sleep.....

We disagree; additional comments will not alter my thoughts, change my mind, nor change the eventual dire reality unless something more than a "start" of pretending to do something about illegals happens, and happens very soon.
3,271 posted on 05/18/2006 7:17:50 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: William Terrell

Amen, well we have the elephant as a mascot on the Republican party logo. That should be reflective of our memory in that we should never forget what is happening and who has participated in this thinking they were safe.


3,272 posted on 05/18/2006 7:18:24 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
There are only a little over a hundred million people in all of Mexico.......

Sounds like statistics of the homeless in the 80's to me.

3,273 posted on 05/18/2006 7:18:29 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: pollyannaish
Ah...aren't we the lucky ones! Do you remember when people complained about Slate Gorton?

We sure taught those RINO's a lesson.

3,274 posted on 05/18/2006 7:18:55 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Lakeshark

So you are saying we have already 25% of the entire population of Mexico here already?

Outrageous, how come we didn't have the Senate give the other 75% at home our Social Security as well?


3,275 posted on 05/18/2006 7:20:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: nicmarlo
I read it earlier, and think it's a good article.

You still haven't addressed what I said last night. If you want serious discussion, you might respond to what I said.

3,276 posted on 05/18/2006 7:20:31 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: CWOJackson
That has been a lesson for me—be careful what I wish for.

Now excuse me for a moment while I quietly curse King County under my breath.
3,277 posted on 05/18/2006 7:20:34 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: A CA Guy
Easy Kimba......

Take a long cold shower and digest the fact. 106 mil total.

3,278 posted on 05/18/2006 7:21:28 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: A CA Guy

PS.....lots of the Senators suck.


3,279 posted on 05/18/2006 7:22:19 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

I guess they must starve to death down there then, because in CA they seem to breed 6 kids to a pair.

6 kids x 17k a year each to educate = 96k
You got to love it.


3,280 posted on 05/18/2006 7:23:37 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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