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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Miss Marple
If they learned more than one tune it would help.

They only hire their own, patronize their own and they have brought a lot of their crime and gangs up here.

Here is what the Los Angeles Times recently wrote.
And mind you, this is the liberal paper that owns the La Opinion.


FROM THE LA TIMES

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are
working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are
predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien
Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican
nationals here illegally. (IT'S OVER A THIRD, LA TIMES WRONG ON THIS ONE)

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely
illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak
Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).

(All 10 from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.


I also heard the other night about a disabled vet who can't get housing because they are second by law to illegals with an anchor citizen baby. IMO that sucks bad and is disrespectful to our soldiers who got hurt defending us.
3,301 posted on 05/18/2006 7:40:11 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SW6906

And our current governor won by even less...


3,302 posted on 05/18/2006 7:40:56 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: nicmarlo
Okay, what's the correct way of describing our differences?

Your last sentence is a stretch, but describe why, I have repeatedly said I want the fence, the security, and it seems the Pres is going to do that (even the Senate voted for it!). I have stated I will not vote single issue perfection, which is where I think you may be, but I'm waiting for your answers to decide.

3,303 posted on 05/18/2006 7:41:21 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Get them out their next primarys by having new better conservative candidates ready to run,

Work equally also if not more so to remove the Democrats of course.


3,304 posted on 05/18/2006 7:41:49 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CWOJackson
Defeat Cantwell! Mike McGavick might be kinda a RINO, but he's far better than Cantwell. He really does stand a chance of defeating her.
3,305 posted on 05/18/2006 7:42:14 PM PDT by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Lakeshark

"And the House had been doing so well."

Yeah, sometimes they toss out a stinker too. Like trying to expand the provisions of the McCain-Feingold Act instead of voting to repeal it in it's entirety.


3,306 posted on 05/18/2006 7:43:30 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (Why are free-traders so blind to the assistance they’re providing our enemies?)
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To: SW6906

I think Rossi would have made a great Governor.


3,307 posted on 05/18/2006 7:44:12 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Rush will mention it. Laura will too.

Immi is the buzz, but the TSH's will diminish it a bit tomorrow I bet.

It can get boring. There are more important topics IMHO.

3,308 posted on 05/18/2006 7:44:20 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
"There are more important topics IMHO."

What! Blasphemy! There is nothing more important the our port security and Bush is selling to to Muslim!

Oops, wrong week. There's nothing more important then our southern border and Jorge is selling it to Fox.

3,309 posted on 05/18/2006 7:46:36 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: neutronsgalore
Green propaganda is a fait acompli it seems.

I am stunned at the size of the no vote.

3,310 posted on 05/18/2006 7:47:50 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: CWOJackson
Heh.

But it's between #3 and #6 in my book, tied with several others.

Still pretty high. You can get me very emotional on my #1........

:-)

3,311 posted on 05/18/2006 7:50:08 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Your descriptors of my thoughts and positions are disingenuous, at best. I've made very clear exactly my concerns, but you claim somehow they are not. Repeating myself again and again, I've NEVER said I expect perfection, that is yet another one of your definitions, and further example of your condescending comments. If you, indeed, desired honest dicussions, I doubt there'd be the arrogance and tone to your questions and statements. Honestly, there is no point discussing this with you.


3,312 posted on 05/18/2006 7:50:57 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: A CA Guy

"I also heard the other night about a disabled vet who can't get housing because they are second by law to illegals with an anchor citizen baby. IMO that sucks bad and is disrespectful to our soldiers who got hurt defending us."

That's what makes it important that Congress officially establish that the definition of the 14th Amendment's birthright clause has always been in reference to US citizens and those here legally only. That would take care of the anchor-baby situation. Once that's been established the children of illegals born in the US can have their citizenship declared as having been obtained fraudently and nullified. Then no illegals would be able to hide behind their children. The whole family could be deported together.


3,313 posted on 05/18/2006 7:51:44 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (Why are free-traders so blind to the assistance they’re providing our enemies?)
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To: nicmarlo
Ahem.

I share your concerns, have repeatedly said I do.

You seem unwilling to address my very specific questions for some reason I don't understand. These are not disingenuous questions, and if I am not describing your positions clearly I am giving you an opportunity to correct them.

3,314 posted on 05/18/2006 7:56:23 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: wardaddy; bourbon

This one is a relative of some sort... nephew I think.

bourbon knows.

I'll be voting for the GOP woman in the November election. In fact, I am going to volunteer to work in her campaign come September.

You can see how distracted I am, I can't think of her name either. I am having way too much fun living here.


3,315 posted on 05/18/2006 7:59:22 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: CWOJackson

What do you mean would have.

I am still planning on WILL. I hope he will run again. I'm keeping my yard signs.


3,316 posted on 05/18/2006 8:02:35 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: CWOJackson

"I think Rossi would have made a great Governor."

I agree and he WILL make a great Governor - -Fraudoire better watch out in the next election. They're going to have to do some digging to find some more vote to cover the 55,000 voters they just took off.


3,317 posted on 05/18/2006 8:03:48 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: Seattle Conservative
"They're going to have to do some digging to find some more vote to cover the 55,000 voters they just took off."

That's easy. Register them to vote while you're booking them into the King County Jail. We could pull down 55,000 in now time.

3,318 posted on 05/18/2006 8:05:50 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: SW6906

LOL............. :-)


3,319 posted on 05/18/2006 8:06:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: pollyannaish
My Aunt and Uncle are staunch Reagan pubbies from Tacoma. They were pretty upset about the last few races.

Vote fraud is pretty sick.

3,320 posted on 05/18/2006 8:06:53 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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