"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

[Pukin Dog]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.

[SerpentDove]

>>Like I said, I think we've addressed this publicly on this forum quite enough. It's too damn childish.<<

Some have compared this to the American Civil War.

I think it's too big for that. It's the World Revolution, and we're witness to it. It's way beyond cajoling and "smoothing over."

Put on your seat belt.

I for one am not enjoying it. I like things the way they once were.

P.S. My tagline will probably have to be be revised soon.

SD

[nunya bidness]

This is the most retarded thread I've ever read on FR; ever.

And that's saying something...

[cyborg]

Remember what we were discussing on the phone about the immigration issue? This is it in action petronski.

[nunya bidness]

In the end, they are left holding their package, because there just aren't any takers. Enjoy yourself while you can.

It's good that you used your "inside voice". Did you ever get taught how to sit at the "big table" or were you too busy pulling gummy bears off of the seat in front of you on the short bus? All those sticky fumblings, etc.

Can I call you Todd?

[Grandma Pam]

Well, PD, it looks like you sure fired up the troops with the latest rant. You done good, real good.

Before you posted your rant I was thinking how much abuse President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Secretary Rumsfeld endure, yet they persevere in the face of it. What motivates them? It's certainly not the money; all of them made lots more money in the private sector. They've all lived lives of achievement before 2000, so it's not that either. It has to be their sense of duty and love of their country that drives them.

I know a lot of us keep these men in our prayers, but we all need to make a special effort to thank the Lord for them and continue to lift them up in prayer.

[SerpentDove]

>> Sometimes you cant get them to swallow a pill, so you are forced to just shove it up their ass? Bend over, bright boy.
<<

TEDDY KENNEDY! Why, you old son of a gun. How ya been?

[Dixie Yooper]

Actually, this is exactly the character that continues to make our country great. Those that have been in the USA the longest have always tried to keep as much of it as they can to themselves, and rightly so. It's human nature, regardless of race. I have never been one to compare our culture and destiny to Rome's. I always hold on to the hope that the best is yet to come.
After skimming though thousands of posts on this thread for the last two days, yours was well worth stopping at and taking the time to read. It truly inspired me and refreshed my hope for America.

Thank you and God Bless America, no matter what size or shape her future holds.

[HopefulPatriot]

"We have opposing parties. The Republicans vs the RINOs. Hopefully, someday, we'll have enough Republicans to overpower both the RINOs and their Democrat accomplices."

Your optimism is touching, even reassuring, but it would be even more encouraging and more credible if you are willing to match it with action. You have been repeatedly asked to lead a debate to improve a proposed plan to restore the Constitution or put forward a better one with an even greater chance to restore the Constitution. So far, you have not only completely ignored these requests, but you also have done so without any explanation of why you are apparently not willing to consider it. One begins to wonder whether your committment to restoring the Constitution has been replaced by a committment to keep the Republicans in power even at the expense of the continued growth of government and the continued expansion of socialism.

Have you forgotten that the growth of government is at the expense of our freedoms? When Ronald Reagan picked up the torch of freedom in 1964 with these words, "We have come to a time for choosing; we will preserve for our children this the last best hope for man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.....history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening," he wasn't concerned about enemies abroad, terrorists, or illegal immigrants. He knew that the greatest threat faced by any people who desire freedom is their own government and the people within it who hold the levers of power. Yes, to a degree it does matter which party controls the agenda as it has an effect on the shape of a bill or when it will reach the floor for a vote, but when the vote actually takes place, it is not which party that casts the vote that matters, it is only the vote itself. It doesn't matter whether it was a Democrat or a Republican who cast a vote to expand government or to increase socialism. The results are the same. The current Republican President and "our" Republican controlled Congress worked together to pass the largest expansion in socialism in forty years and they did it over opposition from the rank and file of their own party.

Look at the plan Jim. It is specifically targeted, first at RINOs and then at Democrats. It is designed specifically to move both parties to the right a little bit in each and every successive election. This is a plan that can rapidly develop momentum and begin to achieve more of its goals in every subsequent election. It is not about turning power over to the Democrats so Americans can hopefully see how bad they really are. After the Senate impeachment trial fiasco and Newt's departure, "Republican leadership" has been an oxymoron. Republicans are simply going with the political flow. In complete contrast, this is a plan designed to lead the country back to its Constitutional roots at every level.

In his 1964 speech, President Reagan repeated Plutarch's warning, "The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits." The distilled wisdom of the wise men from more than two thousand years of history is that all democracies end in bankruptcy or hyperinflation whenever the public learns to vote itself benefits. Gokhale and Smetters have provided ample evidence that this is the fate of the United States unless we quickly abandon socialism. History says that only a couple of governments have survived sovereign default. With fiat currencies, sovereign default is not a consideration. Not one has ever survived hyperinflation. George W. Bush is the forty-third President of the United States. Barring death or assassination, Gokhale's and Smetter's projections tell us there may not be a forty-sixth.

If you listen carefully, you can still hear the immortal words of Ronald Reagan speaking to you Jim.

[George W. Bush]

Excuse my ignorance, but why is there so much activity attached to a vanity post by a guy who calls himself "Pukin Dog?"

He wrote a vanity designed to flush out trolls (broadly defined as those insufficiently loyal to the GOP on various policies) so the moderators could ban them. The moderators put this vanity in Breaking News, despite management's policy against vanities.

Given that he's been bragging about how many trolls he's bagged, it seems a fair assessment.

[sam_paine]

You don't have anything to say about HOW to bring winning, conservative principles back into the GOP.

See you at the polls, insult-monger.

Brilliant. Hillary loves your attitude. She'll be glad to give you the opportunity to say, "I told you so."

[bray]

Wrong whaaababy, that is not President Bush' plan. He doesn't want amnesty, he wants a Guest Worker program. Why should I go over and fight the wolfpack. You must feel right at home in those loser threads.

Now you support the President on the war don't you? You do support him on Iraq don't you or are you a Dino? You do love Capitalism more than Communism don't you?

Pray for W and Our Troops

[tumblindice]

Proverbs 26-11
http://bible.cc/proverbs/26-11.htm

[bray]

Some of the Walk on Water Conservatives long for the days of clinton and minority status. You don't have to lead or compromise when your out of power.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[dirtboy]

Wrong whaaababy, that is not President Bush' plan. He doesn't want amnesty, he wants a Guest Worker program.

Have you seen Bush say he will veto any bill that has amnesty? Have you seen any statement from the White House that the amnesty provisions in the just-passed Senate Bill are unacceptable?

Bush's signature on a bill is functionally the same as assenting to the provisions in it.

[Pukin Dog]

Thanks Grandma Pam.

Its been a blast, I must say. Have you ever seen more effective troll bait? If want to catch a few Rats, you have to set out some cheese, then sit back and watch the fun.

When the hammer falls, you are going to be shocked by some of the folks you might have never suspected of trying to damage Free Republic, but you will know by their sudden absence.

No hunting for me today though, I'm going fishing.

[bray]

Actually it is the most important thread that has been on FR, and that is saying alot. Perhaps the Bushaters have a problem with it, but they can go start their own FR the internet is a big place.

Pray for W and Our Troops