Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
" Nobody gets banned for anything other than for violation of posting guidelines."
Please don't be insulting.
Don't bypass immigration threads altogether. The discussion desperately needs ideas, and if we bow out of the fight we lose.
Then why was Texaggie suspended up thread?
Works everytime its tried, baby! Love them keywords! I had a tagline for a month suggesting that you can manipulate anyone if you can make them angry, yet they ignored it. Every house needs a lightning rod to keep from getting zapped.
I know what the partys are supposed to stand for and used to stand for.
If I have a choice between a Democrat that supports the 2nd amendment, is against more government interference in my personal life, wants to lower taxes, wants to lessen the government debt, and is pro-life, and a Republican that wants to have government decide whether or not I can even BUY a pistol, wants more government regulation, wants to increase taxes to pay for pork, doesn't care about the government debt because HE ain't gonna pay it, and is pro-choice - I'm gonna vote for the Democrat.
It ain't gonna happen very often but there are shades of every color in between.
Another good testimonial against the proposed path to citizenship for the illegal aliens already here.
The law clearly prescribes deportation for those who are here illegally. The President's plan is to punish them by simply making them stand in line with everyone else. Oh, they may go to the "back of the line", but that isn't a punishment. Everyone goes to the back of the line when they put in their papers to legally immigrate here. You make an excellent point.
"I suspect that you do expect perfection. Despite the protestations of your post, your problem is that a mega wall will not be built on the border starting today. I just don't think that was ever going to be the case. But, perhaps we can get it started."
There is no wall being started, or being proposed.
For the record, my own PERSONAL view on Latino immigration is that I like it. Latinos are Catholics, and bring with them family values and anti-abortion values which will, I believe, put a spike in the head of Roe v. Wade sooner than if they are not here. I expect they will drive the Democratic Party rightward on family values.
Also, they are hardworking, and I think that the cheap labor is very good for American business, which is what makes me rich.
When I speak about what Border Conservatives want, it is from the point of view of an observer with a knowledge of political history.
There is nothing that quite sharpens the mind as the approach of the executioner, and I have come to understand quite clearly that BorderBots are NOT BLUFFING any more than tax hawks were about Bush 41's "Read my lips, no new taxes" welch, or pro-lifers were about Miers. I see in the BorderBot defection a defeat for the Republicans, which is not in my interests.
The difference between me and you is, perhaps, a decade and a half of military service has made me extremely realistic and focused in my assessments. The landscape is not as I would have it be, but it is what it is, and convincing ourselves that it is somehow different from what it really is because we don't want to face ugly realities is a very good way to get dead and lose a battle and a very bad way to stay alive and win.
The BorderBots have been screaming at the top of their lungs for months. They're message hasn't been subtle. It was always a mortal threat to the Republican Party. The Republican Party, in personam President Bush on Monday night and the Senate on Tuesday, ignored them completely and gave them NOTHING that they were screaming for - indeed, gave them the OPPOSITE of it on all the key issues.
OF COURSE, therefore, they are going to pull the trigger and bad things are going to happen to the Republicans. Just like "read my lips..." with a tax hike resulted in a Democratic victory. Just like insisting on Miers would have resulted in a massive pro-life defection. It's not a game. The future is at stake, and when you have a few million people standing up and screaming what they want at you, if you ignore them completely, you are going to get killed politically.
I listened to the BorderBots, because I understood, and understand, that they are the mortal threat to Republican unity this year.
You don't.
And you're angry at me for calling a spade a spade.
So be angry.
Me PERSONALLY? Leave the damned border open and convert the country to Latin America for all I care: abortion is illegal in every Latin American country except for Communist Cuba. A country full of Mexican Catholics is a country that ceases practicing legal infanticide. I care about that.
The BorderBots violently disagree with me, and I know a real threat when I see one. They had to be appeased. The party gave them the stiff arm. Now we are going to lose a messy battle in November. We can recover if we will learn something from 1992 and retool.
You think we can recover BEFORE November, but you're talking as though the President proposed a wall. He proposed the opposite of a wall. He proposed a "virtual fence", which, to BorderBots, means "not a fence". They are not fooled, and they're incandescent. Want to keep them? Ignore the President and listen to the House of Representatives. The Republican House is trying to save the Party's ass here, but the Party does not seem to WANT to be saved.
So you won't be.
And it ain't ME who's going to put the bullet in you in November. It's the folks who've been saying they would all along?
My advice?
Give them their damned wall. That way we can win.
I can see that you ARE the little spoiled brat.
Probably not but given the large numbers envolved, the Republicans still have a problem and it's not just about the border.
Wonderful post. I agree.
No it doesn't.
yeah, but isn't he cute?
Nope, but anyone who calls President Bush "Jorge Arbusto", types posts in Spanish, demands Bush be impeached, or demands people should refuse to vote in 2006 probably is. Are you one of those people?
Violation of posting guidelines. It's all real simple, really.
I could have sworn the President just made a prime-time televised address on the subject.
bttt
Well, ok.
I didn't see anything objectionable in his post(s), what was it?
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