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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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Comment #601 Removed by Moderator

To: trubluolyguy

Whatever it is - it is not the place to destroy the GOP and you will be confronted if you appear to be doing so.

If we are not willing to stand against those fighting against the GOP here - we are not willing to fight the dems.


602 posted on 05/17/2006 10:14:13 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: No.6
"between 85,000,000 and 185,000,000 Mexicans" In other words, between 85% and 185% of the entire Mexican population. Boy howdy things are going to be interesting when Mexico is entirely devoid of people, isn't it? :p

Press Release of Senator Sessions

U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions Unveils Massive Numerical Impact Of Senate Immigration Bill

Monday, May 15, 2006

WASHINGTON — U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) today unveiled an impact analysis that shows the Senate immigration bill – should it become law – would permit up to 217.1 million new legal immigrants into the United States over the next 20 years, a number equal to 66 percent of the total current population of the United States.

Sorry, I was way low.

603 posted on 05/17/2006 10:14:13 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: pbrown
I shouldn't have to "Get over it". You're supposed to be impartial.

Huh?

604 posted on 05/17/2006 10:14:21 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Earthdweller

"You are giving it up to the Dems? Surprise surprise. Should I say Bye Bye now or later?"

I am?
I haven't given anything to the Dems.
YOU have, if you won't give the BorderBots their damned fence.
Don't you get it?


605 posted on 05/17/2006 10:14:45 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Peach
"Well, if they're fleeing, they're obviously not "hard core Republicans." Probably never were. Hard core Republicans do not cut and run."

I'm not a hard core Republican, I'm a hard core conservative American. I certainly will not "cut and run" from my duties as a citizen to fight will all my strength against those who enable the invasion of illegal aliens that could destroy my Country.

I'd rather have my epitaph read 'HARD CORE AMERICAN" than "HARD CORE REPUBLICAN">
606 posted on 05/17/2006 10:14:55 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Texaggie79

We adults do sometimes need a lesson in how to "get along"...A "tone it down" thread and work together spirit is welcome.


607 posted on 05/17/2006 10:15:39 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you, Pukin Dog!!! Your rant echoed my feelings as well. It's my birthday today and although you didn't know that, I'll treat it as a birthday gift and smile about it all day long.

God bless President Bush, our First Lady, Laura, and their family.


608 posted on 05/17/2006 10:15:50 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Mo1

McCain/Kennedy had better go down in flames.
Please keep me (us) posted. I do not have control of my TV and the person in control will not permit me to watch C-SPAN.


609 posted on 05/17/2006 10:15:56 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: ClancyJ

I will defend and fight for CONSERVATIVES. Damn the party.


610 posted on 05/17/2006 10:16:03 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: Peach

They are opinion shapers. we have all seen screen names recently that we've never seen before although they signed up years ago. They come here to stir dissent and create an atmosphere of anger and drive a wedge between Republicans.

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Loads of antagonistic '98 and '99 Freepers show up during very contentious times. So many show up on the same threads that the first time I noticed the phenomenon I thought disruptors had learned how to hack their signup date. I was assured that was not possible. So they have to be deepseated opinion movers as you suggest.


611 posted on 05/17/2006 10:16:18 AM PDT by maica ( We have a destination in mind, and that is a freer world. -- G W Bush)
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To: Spiff

Maybe I should do that as the "opposition response" to PD's rant. Maybe someone will beat me to it. ;)



It would probably get yanked.


612 posted on 05/17/2006 10:16:47 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: Pukin Dog
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections.

This cannot be over emphasized.

613 posted on 05/17/2006 10:16:52 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Glenn
It's really okay to be pissed off at your representatives and to express that displeasure via ink -- virtual or real, between election days.

If you don't know the difference between expressing displeasure and the outright vicious, nasty smears we've been witnessing lately, then you're beyond being reasoned with.

I've witnessed a small -- very small -- amount of expressions of displeasure over this issue or that. For the most part those kinds of posts, rare as they are, are discussed and debated civilly.

614 posted on 05/17/2006 10:16:57 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Fudd Fan
Show me where I said that. You cannot because I didn't.

Backtracking now aren't we?

Pukin, I appreciated this thread when I first read your article, but it appears you've brought some of the trolls out of hiding and into suspension! Congrats!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1633739/posts?page=522#522

There's really no point in you trying to deny that's who you were talking about.

615 posted on 05/17/2006 10:17:24 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Desron13

Desron13,

I don't agree with you BorderBots on the issue, but I understand you. And I know a threat when I see it. We have to give you your damned fence, or we're sunk.
So I say: give the BorderBots their fence, so that we can win the election.

Former Desron 31


616 posted on 05/17/2006 10:17:26 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Freepers not alone beind divided.....
just posted on Drudge

"Rush Limbaugh on illegal immigration: 'I can't think of any single issue, in the 18 years I have been on the air, which has Republicans more up in arms than this one'..."


617 posted on 05/17/2006 10:17:28 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: ClancyJ

That's why I asked you to read my post 193 again more carefully (the one you responded to). It has this in it:

"I have not given up on Bush or the House. I plan to keep pushing them to the right, as best I can."


618 posted on 05/17/2006 10:17:37 AM PDT by pissant
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To: onyx

I just tuned in a little while ago

McCain is up now giving a speech and twisting the President's words like he did yesterday


619 posted on 05/17/2006 10:17:38 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Lead Moderator
Watch me.

FOTFLOL! Hey, Good morning or afternoon!

620 posted on 05/17/2006 10:17:45 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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