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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: BlueStateDepression

I have to disagree. When they are in the majority, they're pulling out. They saw Duncan's trick for what it was and knew this was not the time.

But in another year or so, I think it's a given they'll leave. Kerry and some others are on record as saying we should get out.


821 posted on 05/17/2006 10:56:39 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Rokke
Nope, but anyone who calls President Bush "Jorge Arbusto", types posts in Spanish, demands Bush be impeached, or demands people should refuse to vote in 2006 probably is. Are you one of those people?

Not generally...I side with the House of Representatives...Doesn't matter...Anyone on FR who disagrees with the liberal Republicans in Washington are considered trolls, DUers and scum by the resident undocumented moderators, even tho I (we, for the most part) agree with conservatives in the House...Doesn't bother me one way or the other but if someone wants unity here on FR, this rant for the most part is addressed to the wrong side of the isle...

822 posted on 05/17/2006 10:57:02 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: SilencedOne
We were warned for posting the keywords, and the mods even said that's all we got. It wasn't until I did as the mods asked me to, which was to post, that they THEN decided to BAN my account for a full week.

How can your account be banned for a whole week, when you have just signed-on?

823 posted on 05/17/2006 10:57:08 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: alwaysconservative
"I genuinely expect better of FReepers than some of the stuff I have glimpsed lately. We can have honest and respectful disagreements on many issues, but when it falls to name-calling, you have to wonder how much we're infiltrated by pseudo-conservatives from the Dirty Underpants site. I refuse to be alarmed by professional alarmists on ANY issue."

I have been hammered as a BorderBot myself of late. While I try to keep it civil, that doesn't mean that I have to just sit beck and take it.

The border issue is vital because if the President gets his way and makes even the thirty plus million illegals in this country now citizens, it's already too late. Game over. That is more then enough reliable votes for the Rats to keep them in power for the foreseeable future. This country as we now know it will cease to exist. If you think I'm wrong on this please tell me how you think I'm wrong. What nuance of the Presidents plan am I missing. Mexico is a Narco-State. If this amnesty disaster goes through, we're well on our way down the same road. An earlier poster claims that this amnesty will make Mexico more like us. I say nonsense. History shows again and again starting with the Roman Empire that it will be the other way around.

824 posted on 05/17/2006 10:57:15 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Pukin Dog
"except Rokke."

That's it. It's pistols at noon. I'm in San Francisco today and I could probably hit you from here.

826 posted on 05/17/2006 10:57:54 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Oliver Optic

"I'd hate to hand the Speaker's gavel to Pelosi, give up our imminent victory in the courts, and embolden the Democrat party for years to come ... just to "send a message" that never got there anyway."

Well, you WOULDN'T, and neither would I, if it were in either of our control. But it's not.

It's going to happen, because that's the way that people work.
Fortunately, we have the example of 1992/1994 to give us hope that the ship will right itself quickly.

Remember, if the Democrats win Congress, it will only be a few seats. The Republicans voted out are not going to be the solid conservatives, but the guys on the fringes, like Lincoln Chaffee. The remaining Republican caucus will be more conservative. The current political establishment ACTS LIKE they don't get that their political problem is immigration, but they DO get it, believe me. The problem is, there are plenty of business Republicans who don't WANT constraints on the cheap immigration flows across the border. If the GOP loses in November because of the revolt of the Border Conservatives, those against walling the border will be the hardest hit. The remainder are not going to be much inclined to lie to themselves. Rather, they'll want power back.

Of course, the GOP Senate and the President COULD see the light in the next few weeks and give the Border Conservatives their sea-to-sea fence. That will save the party this year. If they don't, though, wishful thinkin' ain't gonna do it.

A captain at sea in a ship may not like hurricanes, but he doesn't ignore them, and he doesn't shoot the meteorologist for giving him a report of bad weather. The prudent captain sails around the storm, even though it takes him from the path he wants to go. The stubborn captain ploughs straight ahead into it and reliance on the seaworthiness of the ship to carry them all through.


827 posted on 05/17/2006 10:58:15 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: trubluolyguy

He shouldn't have promised not to raise taxes. No one should. Because things happen, like a war, that require it.

Democrats in Congress and held the majority refused to pay for the war with budget requests so the president did the only other thing he could do.

It's not a lie. But keep spinning it that way.


828 posted on 05/17/2006 10:58:17 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Peach

"The president has frequently ended speeches with God bless America."

Yes. I think all of them, even.


829 posted on 05/17/2006 10:58:25 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Rebelbase

Don't act surprised when it happens. And don't bother writing. Trollmail is blocked by my spam filter.


831 posted on 05/17/2006 10:59:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Toby06; Lead Moderator

I agree, the lesbian thread was sickening. The pics of women kissing we so filled with conservative family values!


832 posted on 05/17/2006 10:59:12 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Tagline removed per Admin. Moderator.)
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To: onyx
"How can your account be banned for a whole week, when you have just signed-on?"

I think he's referring to his 18th account this month! :)
833 posted on 05/17/2006 10:59:58 AM PDT by jdm
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To: FlipWilson

"Anger? No, not me. I would like a wall. But, I am not giving up on it yet. I just know that under the Republicans it MAY get built. Under the dems, it will NEVER get built."

Didn't they say that about welfare reform?


834 posted on 05/17/2006 11:00:23 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: All

Vitter,(my senator)is speaking.


835 posted on 05/17/2006 11:00:29 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Rokke
Took you long enough to catch that. With that kind of acuity, are you sure you never landed on a taxiway?
837 posted on 05/17/2006 11:01:06 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Peach

Not really selective memory, have heard him say it but not when. I was asked by a person to name a specific speech where he said it, and I couldn't think of A SPECIFIC one.


838 posted on 05/17/2006 11:01:09 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Lead Moderator

So a lacivious thread with lots of male posters talking about 'I'd hit that!' is appropriate?

And lets not forget the Asian handjob thread that ran most of Sunday (Mother's Day)....

No rudeness intended, I'm just confused.


839 posted on 05/17/2006 11:01:15 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I never suggested perfection, rather Conservatives must holding a STANDARD of striving to do what is legal, right and best.


840 posted on 05/17/2006 11:01:45 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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