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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Peach
"Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican." Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment

Peach, there are many Republicans who are concerned that the party has lost its way. Those conservatives fear the results of what appear to be harmful choices made by the GOP leadership. Another Ronald Reagan quote:

I didn't leave the Democratic party. The Democratic Party left me.

Substitute "Republican" for the D word, and I suspect that sums up the concerns of those who worry about the President's stand on illegal immigration.

861 posted on 05/17/2006 11:06:22 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat ("Deus Vult" is the answer to "Allahu Akbar")
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To: maica

"There will be no 'Meanwhile' if we lose the Majority in Congress. Present day democrats will find so many ways to reinterpret Laws it will be like living in Venezuela."

The Democrats will do their worst, which may well include "going nuclear" in the Senate on every piece of legislation.

BUT, the President will still be President, and it still takes 67 votes to override a veto. The Democrats might have 51 votes in the Senate. They're not going to have 67.

The Supreme Court will remain dominated by Republican appointees, and evenly split between liberals and conservatives.

There will be quite a contrast set up, between a raging Democratic Congress and a stubborn President in his bunker, vetoing everything.

So yes, there will be a "meanwhile". 2007 will be the meanwhile. And the Republicans will have that time period, while Congress and the President do isometrics and everything is paralyzed, to add a Sealed Mexican Border to their list of "untouchable" issues, and nominating a candidate who promises it.

And that gives the GOP power back in 2008.

It would be better to just give the BorderBots their fence NOW, and start building it, so we hold Congress this year.


862 posted on 05/17/2006 11:06:28 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Toby06
"That certainly does not support the family-friendly look and feel of Free Republic"

Yeah, I sure hate when we veer from family-friendly stuff like box cars, mining the borders, shooting all immigrants on sight...stuff like that.

863 posted on 05/17/2006 11:06:32 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: BJClinton

Would you like some cheese with your whine?


864 posted on 05/17/2006 11:06:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Junior_G

Merci, monsieur.


865 posted on 05/17/2006 11:06:55 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Peach

It's not a lie.



Then what IS a lie?


866 posted on 05/17/2006 11:06:57 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: Vicomte13

Well said and it bears repeating...

"We should stop calling people Bushbots. It's not fair."






"How about Lemmings?"

No no no.
We have to stop this.
Pukin' Dog's right:
shooting into a circle isn't going to do any of us any good.

What we need to do is respect the Border Conservatives enough to give them SOMETHING - their real fence, that's all, why NOT give it to them? - so that they stay in ranks.

We need to revive Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."

The BorderBots shouldn't be hating the Bush loyalists, or vice versa. They should be talking it out, understanding what the demands are, and accomodating each other.

How about this:
WE give YOU the Fence you want, from sea to sea, and we start building it this year.
And YOU promise to give US your votes in November, to keep the Republican majority.

Political horsetrading is needed.
Political namecalling isn't.
Have you ever concluded a sale with a shopkeeper who called you names? No.
We have to talk to each other with respect.


867 posted on 05/17/2006 11:07:30 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Ask not what the government can do for you. Ask why it doesn't.)
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To: Iscool
"I've watched your posts...All anti-illegal conservatives are trolls, nut-ball radicals with no ideas to you...I don't think I want to belong to any Party you belong to...So, what political Party would that be???"

I'm a conservative Republican, I understand politics enough to know that its the only conservative party with a chance of winning much more than a local race.

I work to move the party more to the right, but I'm smart enough to not commit suicide if I don't get everything I want in every election or vote in Congress.

Only by staying involved can you have a voice in a vote in Congress, or in the primaries to change direction of the party.
868 posted on 05/17/2006 11:07:34 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: BlueStateDepression

You seem to have completely missed the point of this very thread, FRiend.


869 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:04 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: BlueStateDepression

Amazing that some freepers need an explanation as to the difficulties and complexities that go with moderating a political forum.

You did a good job describing your experience.


870 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:05 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
The pics of women kissing we so filled with conservative family values!

I'm glad I didn't see that thread. ULK!

871 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:18 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Fudd Fan

Only if you have a nephew who rides a Tennessee stud.


872 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:28 AM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: Peach
Then you have a VERY selective memory. The president has frequently ended speeches with God bless America.

That's my recollection as well. No, I can't cite a specific speech, but I'll bet a bit of Googling would find them.

873 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:36 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat ("Deus Vult" is the answer to "Allahu Akbar")
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To: pissant
"I have not given up on Bush or the House. I plan to keep pushing them to the right, as best I can."

I saw that which is why I stated that you might let this be known in your posts. Not all of us have time to research all prior posts of a poster and we judge the views from comments in the posts on a specific thread.

And the impression I got from these on this thread HAD been that you were a quitter.

874 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:37 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: Denver Ditdat
Substitute "Republican" for the D word, and I suspect that sums up the concerns of those who worry about the President's stand on illegal immigration.

You know he's not running for reelection.

Have you written to senators and congress to voice your opinion?

875 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:54 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thankyou PD for installing some sanity back into FR.


876 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:55 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: Denver Ditdat

The country is moving left. Socialism is worming its way into the fabric of our society. I see the evidence nearly every day. At least, every day that Congress is in session.

It's disturbing and frightening. If I thought there was an alternative, I'd be all for it. But there isn't, so I'll keep voting for Republicans so we can keep getting conservative judges who will MAYBE make enoough court decisions in my lifetime that I will see the country swing away from socialism.


877 posted on 05/17/2006 11:09:21 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Lead Moderator

So letting in a ton of Al-quaeda through our unguarded mexican border is a good policy?

Can't say we don't do it, because nobody knows, and nobody is even looking.


878 posted on 05/17/2006 11:09:47 AM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL. Alrighty then, the man has spoken.


879 posted on 05/17/2006 11:10:01 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: trubluolyguy

Is a president not permitted to change his mind, or for circumstances to change like a danged war, before you stop calling something like that a lie?


880 posted on 05/17/2006 11:10:27 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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